. >>> if you will hold on to us, remember to come back and we'll wrap up with ron nakasone this morning. . >>> drsone, buddhism, aging in asian context, and ron had just told us about a visit to his ancestral shrine, then was talking about the relationship and the duties of between really the living and the ancestors. share that, if you would, sir. >> in the okinawan culture, japanese culture, chinese culture, there is no distinction between life and death. in japan, in okinawa, when a person passes away, he or she has ended her physical existence, but the spiritual existence still needs be cultivated. so at the end of 33 years, it's believed that the person finally fulfills and becomes a deity, ancestral spirit. and the idea of reciprocity, feelialty between parent and child, even in death, the child has an obligation to support his or her family, parents, in fulfilling this or becoming a fully spiritual being. and we do this by remembering, offering sacrifices, and to ease this person's passage to the spiritual life. and so this obligation, of course, is not only -- should not only be relegated