so he is now -- all of the students have paid dr. ruben and dr. rutkow and dr. warren all this vast amount of money. we are wealthy guys counting our money from all these students. this is what surgeon general cox had to say. a great quote. each role of parchment endorses its possessor as a man of distinction. and he goes forth amid the sound of marshal music and rich bouquets showered upon him by the hand of fair ones. and accredited agent for life or death endowed with all the paraphernalia of a doctor of medicine but destitute of the brains. this its what is going on. and cox tells another story. in 1863, one of the premier proprietary medical schools, half of the graduates, about 25 men, wanted to go fight in the whiffle wa civil war. wanted to fight in the medical department. and by 1863, had to take an examination to get into the army. by then. not one was able to pass the exam to get into the army. this was the state of american medical education. so there wasn't a lot of discipline in the discipline. it did not exist. it was chaos and anarchy. but this i

did jerry ruben and abbie hoffman and dr.ry take any responsibility for the children that they said i influenced? you want to drop the blame on charlie and say it's all charlie's fault. >> what did you do? >> i do the best thing i know how, nothing. i [ bleep ]. i play music and i smoke a little grass now and then. because it helps me and i like to relax with it. that's about it. i don't see anything wrong with drugs. drugs is all right if you don't misuse them. if you misuse them and you're misinformed about them, then you make a big bad thing about them. that's what the public has done. >> charles manson, drug counselor. he's going on and on about not misusing drugs. he used drugs, serious drugs, mind-altering drugs, lsd, extensively with his followers. some of them have reported after the group would have dinner, they would drop acid. and he would get on this pedestal kind of thing and do his preaching to them. he definitely knew the effects that drugs could have, and he used it to his advantage. >> if i wanted to kill som