dr. sawyer and dr. jax will be able to provide valuable insight into ongoing nationwide efforts to increase immunization rates and keep children and families healthy. i want to thank, again, all of our witnesses for the important work you're doing and for taking the time to be here with us today. thank you very much, mr. chairman. thank you, senator murray. thank you to you and your staff for working together so that we jointly invited the witnesses today. that always produces a better hearing and a good variety of views. each witness will have up toru five minutes so i'll ask you full summarize your views in five minutes so senators can have a chance to give their questions. then i will introduce -- then we'll take an hour. i said before some of the senators came in, we'll have to end the first panel at 11:00 so we'll get to the second panel which will go until 12:00. doctor, as the director of national center for immunization and respiratory diseases at the centers for disease control and prevention.

dr. sawyer encouraged her to come back to ohio. and at that point, i'm afraid that she just sort of gave up. i mean, we think about the strength she had in the white house, how she transcended that disease. david pietrusza: warren's life was her life. and that was gone. kathrine sibley: that was -- that was certainly part of it, but -- david pietrusza: and her kidneys were gone too. susan swain: yes. so she died on november of 21st 1924 in marion, ohio at the age of 64 and they were the only president and first lady to die before what would have been the end of their first term in office, another first, a sad first for their country. kathrine sibley: yes. susan swain: so on their legacy, here is the question from twitter, from gary robinson who wants to ask in a -- with historians and here we have two of them, classify as -- it's not coming up when i wanted to -- florence or warren as the more interesting? david pietrusza: they're both very interesting. i don't know more. this is like this ranking of presidents that we get into, wh

dr. sawyer took an immediate dislike to forbes, always hated him. david pietrusza: and it was, i believe, sawyer who brought the rumors to warren harding of the thefts which were -- which are completely egregious in the veteran's hospital. i think when you talk about your teapot dome, you talk about whatever daugherty or jeff smith did in the justice department. i think the great shame of the administration is what they did to the veterans. kathrine sibley: yes, but i think when florence found out -- david pietrusza: and even in terms of money. kathrine sibley: right. when florence found this out that she absolutely, you know, she was even more forceful than harding. he was always a little reluctant, i think to turn hardly -- hard heart on his old friends but in the end, of course, he did have to accept the resignation of forbes. but yes -- david pietrusza: yes, he sent them out of the country. kathrine sibley: yes, absolutely. susan swain:kathrine sibley, while you were talking about the veterans we saw some film clips of the veterans in wheelchair