dr. scott gottlieb, stick around.as the new glitches were coming to light today, president obama was making a campaign-style speech, urging americans to sign up for these obama care plans. we're going to debate whether obama care will fall of its own weight and whether it's time the republicans put out a plan to replace it. next up on "kudlow." i was made to work. make my mark with pride. create moments of value. build character through quality. and earn the right to be called a classic. the lands' end no iron dress shirt. starting at 49 dollars. ♪ [ female announcer ] you're the boss of your life. in charge of long weekends and longer retirements. ♪ ask your financial professional how lincoln financial can help you take charge of your future. ♪ >>> welcome back to "kudlow report." when it comes to defeating obama care, maybe republicans don't have to try so hard. with the list of obama cares and gingriches mounting by the day, will this sort of thing just sort of die of its own weight? let's talk. here is salon.com p

dr. scott gottlieb, former policy advisor at centers for medicare & medicaid services and royce, senior fellowhe manhattan institute. i read prices government pays for medicare services are up 58% over the last 10 years. you say this might be part of the reason. is this a racket? >> it's a total racket. it is the fox guarding the henhouse. right, the ama is conducting surveys with their own doctors, they as you, they never err on the side of ssying it is too little work. they say this is so much work, this procedure is so challenging we have to be reimburse ad lot for it. gerri: doctor, we talked about this last week, and you said how some of this pricing gets set makes no sense at all. give us an example. >> well the pricing gets set based on assumption, quote, intensity of work required to do certain things and time it takes and some measure of the overhead costs t basically gives incentive for higher reimbursement for procedures. so you can do a procedure like removing ingrown toenail literally and get paid more than you would spending half an hour counseling a patient. it incentivizes doct