dr. starbuck you have written a few books on archaeology. why is it important for people to learn history through archaeology? >> it is often said that history is written by the victors, and we read about such things as major battles, generals, military campaigns. history talks about those who want. it talks about the famous. talks about the great events. archaeology on the other hand talks about ordinary people. we dig up the remains of soldiers on average days at their forts, military encampments. is the real bias of real people and archaeology kits that were as history has been biased towards the famous people, the important people. to an archaeologist, everyone is important. when i dig up military camps, i am digging up the activities, the things that people were doing 360 days out of the year, not what they did on the one or two days they were fighting during the year. archaeologist love to say it is everybody story that we try to tell. >> and you have done, you spoke about how you've done multiple kinds of archaeology. how did you deci

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