dr. steinberg is surname. i had a conversation with her. she dropped out of the medicaid program. because the reimbursement rates were not sufficient to keep her doors open, to provide health- insurance thoron own employees. so, you start talking about reforming the system and covering more people, but if you are reimbursing doctors at a lower rate from what they are currently receiving, then that little plastic card that says, i have insurance, therefore, i have access and euna lee don't have access, if there are no doctors there, particularly primary-care doctors. -- you feel you have access with this card, but you don't have access if there are no doctors there. we need more doctors. if you're paying them less and less, the best and brightest will not go into medicine and certainly they will not go into specialty areas that we are in most in need of. specialties that we are most in need of. host: by the way, howard dean is out with the new book and will join us tomorrow. paul is on the phone from fort leavenworth, kansas. caller: how're you doing, congressman? i am a retired ar