including as we talked about moments ago, what would make swan want to kill in thisomeone want to kill in this way in the first place. we had drhis satellite feed went down. we will get him back up. i really do want you to hear from him. it's so hard to find people who are truly experts in this kind of thing, in school security and he's one of them. we got him? let's bring back dr. shaw. welcome back. in terms of recognizing the signs, you know what i mean, most people are regular folks, they see somebody, he's weird, he's odd, he's shy, he keeps to himself. this guy they said he dressed more formally, he held a briefcase in high school. he would push up again the lockers when friends went by, he didn't like to talk to anybody. how do you discern that from shy necessary, awkwardness, asburgers which can be a social impediment for some folks from a would be murderer. >> i would advise everybody not to start labeling, not use terms like asburgers or autism. i think that is incorrect, it's wrong, it's offensive, it's like labeling someone who is too short or too tall or left-handed, that kind of thing. i think in the immediate ne