dr. tiller was killed. i have to ask you overall how you feel the community is responding to the opening of the clinic? is that the dominant force that you're dealing with or are you also getting support? >> we are getting support. from going to the post office, to the grocery store, to the bank. people in this community are coming forward and giving us their support. over the last few days, we've had a lot of phone calls into our office from people in the community. so overall, we have, i feel, vast community support. we just have those loud and noisy extremists people seem to hear from the most. >> have you learned anything that might be helpful to the rest of the country, in terms of how to deal with those loud and noisy extremists? obviously, i have mixed feelings about -- i have mixed feelings about conveying what it is that they are doing and saying because i don't want to be a megaphone for what they're doing, at the same time, i don't want to ignore the dangerousness of what it is that they're doing

dr. tiller had his clinic for years until he was killed. you worked with dr. ller and ended up opening your clinic in the same site. what's it been like? >> well, we've had our battles. we were issued a subpoena four days after opening, which we've had to answer. they wanted to look at some of our business records. >> after being open for four days? >> yes, correct. >> both of our physicians have now been outed by the extremist group operation rescue. and one of our physicians has been harassed in her private office in another state. by anti-choice extremists, as well. >> is this going the way you expected it to go? i mean, obviously there's this sort of these twin forces. the anti-abortion extremist groups and activist groups which have operated the way we've seen, but they have allies who are effectively using different tactics. is it going the way you thought it would? >> i would say pretty much. we have definitely had hurdles placed in front of us we've been able to navigate over. i'm still anticipating to meet some challenges down the road. >> yeah. >> i w

dr. tiller was finally shot and killed at his church by an anti-abortion activist in 2009, the tiller clinicchita. the murder of dr. tiller ended abortion access in that part of kansas or ended its safe, legal practice seemingly indefinitely. that was four years ago next month. after dr. tiller was killed, a woman that used to work for him, julie burke started a foundation to buy the clinic. she bought it from his widow. this week, the clinic opens again. new clinic, on the same site offering pap smears, contraceptive care, treatment of stds, pelvic exams, and yes, they will provide abortions. she has found three doctors to work at the clinic and she's working on hiring more. for four years, george tiller's murderer got what he wanted by murdering george tiller. this week with the reopening of that clinic in wichita, he stops getting what he wanted by murdering george tiller. that's what's going on in kansas. here is what's going on in alabama. alabama state senate joined the statehouse by passing purposely impossible to achieve standards for abortion clinics in alabama. they call these trap

dr. tiller, unfortunately would survive that shooting but then would be shot and killed 16 years later by another anti-activity. that same year that all of that was happening. this board of sburps has the access to healthcare facilities ordinance in an attempt to insure that the men, women and families that walked through the doors of the productive health facilities are saved from threats, violence, intimidation and harassment and it has been more than 20 years and much has happened, unfortunately in some respects not much has changed. last year we saw the bombing of two representative healthcare facilitis in a third that was burned to the ground over night. must has been said about the war on women, but we believe those of us who have been seeing these events unfold that the war on women is alive and well and we are seeing it here in san francisco. over the past year, we have been working with planned parenthood who approached my office and started telling us about the harassment that the workers at planned parenthood and the men and women and families that were trying to access the cli

dr. tiller, dr. tiller the baby killer until scott rhoder shot him. and driving people to violence, incredibly ironic. >> i understand why you as a liberal would want to blame fox news but when you have something we just played. on the verge of calling president obama a muslim because of the criticism of the president's remarks. neither of those guys have gone anywhere near that garbage. it's not entirely just on one side. >> well, i mean, it's a funny way of balancing things out, howard. i mean, on the one side you keep having a guy that says muslim, terrorist, trying to equate the two. on the other side, you have somebody saying, hey, maybe that's not that wise and maybe they're implying something here that they shouldn't be implying. i don't equate those two as equal. just to say that one side does something 1% or 10% may be wrong doesn't justify the other side doing something 100% wrong. if bill o'reilly wants to keep going in that direction, hey, listen, do you know since 1995, 56% of the terrorist acts in the united states have been right winged

dr. george tiller's clinic stood.ng us via skype from wichita, kansas is burkhart, executive director of "trust women" and the newly opened south wind women's center, which will offer is comprehensive women's health services including abortions for up to fourteen weeks. thank you for joining us? >> thank you for having me on. >> michael: julie clinics must have locker rooms for their patients 324 square feet of janitorial storage, and 150 square feet so that's like half of janitor clinic. are you worried about that? and that they will impose more restrictions to drive you out of business. >> the first part of that question is no. that law has been adjoined since 2001, and we do not have a court date for that law at this time. and yes, the legislation with our governor brownback in the governor's mansion, i am positive they will try to pass more rules, laws to drive us out of business. >> michael: you have been getting a lot of pushback from people like troy newman. he said quote . . . what have they been doing? >> wel

dr. tiller's clinic. >> if someone would shoot the new abortionist like scott shot tiller, hardly anyoneeciate it but the babies. >> that's a very true statement. >> it would be a blessing to the babies. everyone else would panic. >> that's great, david. that's great. >> shoot the new abortionist? this kind of talk is disturbing but it gets worse. later on the call, leach asks the many he says is roder what he thought of the people who reopened the clinic. >> it is a little bit death-defying. you know, for someone to walk back in there, to walk in there and reopen a clinic, a murder mill where a man was stopped, you know, it's almost like putting a target on your back saying, well, let's see if you can shoot me. >> it is a gauntlet thrown down by someone who wants a fight. >> i love it. >> of course, i don't know if anyone will pick up the gauntlet. >> a target on your back. pick pi pick up the gauntlet. this rhetoric has no places in our debate. joining me is kathy spiller. thank you for being here tonight. >> thank you. >> first, before we go on, i should note that msnbc cannot confirm

dr. tiller before he was murdered four years ago, that clinic today in kansas made its formal announcement that it is reopening for the first time in four years. and the guns debate, connecticut moved forward today with the most ambitious and most unique package of gun reforms since the newtown school massacre back in december. a vote is expected tomorrow in the connecticut legislature. the governor says he will sign it. while today, the nra distinguished itself by having the stones to announce yet another plan for more guns in schools while continuing to block everybody else's votes to keep guns away from schools and madmen. president obama announcing a big new plan, a big, ambitious sign tifb project that can change medicine, could frankly change the world if it works. are we the kind of country that does stuff like that anymore? can we be that kind of country again? like i said, there's lots in motion in today's news, but we begin with scandal. good old fashioned bribery, scandal. complete with politicians in handcuffs and envelopes of cash being passed in parked cars and wiretaps. some

dr. tiller. there were others who bombed abortion clinics he might have been connected with them. didn't we give him miranda warning right away. >> the police are under aware that they're going to be under the microscope. they are going to take every step in that case. here they have a manhunt and conflict with the authorities. i'm as pro civil liberties as you get. and if you were this kid and i was talking to ana before the show but if you adopt an outlaw code and i'm going to declare war, even if you are an american citizen, if you get your miranda mirandaizemirandarights at all you should be thankful that you didn't get shot in the head. they behaved with tremendous restraint considering the fact that they had lost an officer and he survived and was in custody and they got any information that is sort of legal. >> cenk: sort of. i'm a conservative on those issues and i'm not sure we should miranda period. but we have to be even in how we apply it. i--but but ana hold on. i got to play a-18 because his mother spoke out, and she's speaking--she may have been a listening. she's j

dr. tiller at that clinic. >> i point out in my piece again, there's no connecting the dots and it is notin terms of women health clinics attacks. january, may september 2003, january, may july, 2005, may december 2007. 2009, five clinics were targeted in florida. wisconsin, new mexico, kansas. there's stuff out there that's happening and it is right wing extremist. but when we talk about in the press, there is no -- no one connects the dots. there is no profiling to take place and things like that. there's two definite approaches. >> stephanie: as you say and then in the wake of your larger point, of course, in the wake of the boston thing fox news, as you say all in on the war against islam. >> oh, yeah. you talked about keith ellison. eric bolling last week saying he's an apologist for muslims in congress and he's a very dangerous person. you know, he's not -- they claim he was an apologist for muslims. to me -- that to me is amazing. he's talking about religion. he's not saying he's an apologist for you know, muslim advocacy groups or terrorists or -- eric bolling is complaining that

dr. george tiller that same year who was serving as the director was shot in both arms