dr. vance waldman wonderful and their staff for just incredible. they were working daily on his file because they knew that the clock was ticking every day and there investigations-- >> what i'm asking is even if they found a doctor on the fishing trip and the doctor had said what he thought, that wasn't enough? >> it wasn't. with that point they still wrote a letter saying to bed, it was the material flack of disclosure and then dr. waldman had to contact them again, and discuss it further. >> and, ms. horton your situation is that your policy was rescinded because you were seeking some insurance coverage, or how did that work for you? >> turn on your mic please. >> can you not hear me? i was seeking the policy when i was going over from a group health insurance. >> so this is just a denial from the beginning because-- >> i was accepted in the first time i went to see a doctor i received a letter from blue cross dating they wanted all of my medical records and it was the bill for just a routine blood work. it was to test my tea for level, which is