dr. vas brought her three children to stay with the lopez family. lopez remembers noticing that baby isis had a number of unusual marks or bites on her head, which her mother acknowledged. >> dr. vas said they were flea bites, and i've never seen flea bites like that. maybe around here, here and her forehead and some on her neck. they were black. >> thompson: people at work later recalled his concern about the baby's condition. >> there was one episode where she had woken up, and she was crying and she was, like, gasping for air while she was crying. >> thompson: the lopezes were also concerned about the color of her stool. >> it had turned black. it was a tarry, almost sticky substance, and it was really hard to clean her, you know. >> thompson: ernie lopez said he asked dr. vas for a note to take isis to the doctor just before she left town. >> so i ran out the door and i asked her... i said we need a note, just in case something happens. and she said, "isis will be fine." >> okay, i need y

>> reporter: well, today we heard from this witness as you said, dr. vasoak ridge national laboratory, known as the body farm. this is a person who deals with decomposed bodies all the time on a daily basis. and three highlights worth mentioning now is that he said they found shockingly high levels of chloroform in the trunk of casey anthony's car. he also mentioned -- he also described the moment when he opened that canister with a sample from the lining of the trunk, he said he jumped back at the very enormous and overwhelming smell or stench of human decomposition. and finally, most importantly, he testified to finding chemicals in the trunk of the car that are consistent with human decomposition, richard. >> lilia, how does this fit in with what has been said by the defense and the prosecution? >> reporter: well, definitely sits with what the prosecution is stating. unfortunately for the defense, not to their case. unless the defense comes back, while they're placing their case and say, yes, casey anthony or george anthony placed the body in the trunk

we're going to hear this week, probably, from a dr. vass undertaken a study that indicates that many of the chemical components that are consistent with an early decomposing body were found in that trunk. in fact, he's patented another device by which he can detect bodies that are buried in the ground. the problem is, and the defense will say, and they've said already and the judge ruled against them, is that this is not scientifically accepted peer reviewed evidence that the things he's going to testify are not accepted in the scientific community generally because he's the only one who testifies to these things. so the csi component that the evidence is literally in the air is not a slam dunk in this case. >> steve: plus then you've got the element of they found a super high concentration of color form right there, the idea is that she chloroformed the kid. >> he can also say that he can not eliminate other causes, other rotting, decaying causes in that particular trunk. we have the hair evidence, we have the air evidence, taken together

health system. >> it seems to be the va should be far more prepared way out in front of all of this because of what we are seeing, the evidence is there. go ahead, dr. seal, and i have another question. >> i really appreciated your comment that i think what you're saying is you will va to be more proactive and even more aggressive in terms of chip trying to attack a mental health problem if it exists. i mean, again i go back to our model which is really almost, i don't mean to use the word passive as opposed to being aggressive, but it's passive in the sense that all new oef/oif veterans who come into primary care see a primary clear condition for 15 minutes and we literally walking over to the psychologist, they can see the ptsd psychologist for 50 minutes, whether or not they have screened positive for ptsd depression our colleges. we just assume that if you been to a word zone, you may have something to talk about. if you don't have anything to talk about, at least you can hear about services that may be available to you when you are ready to talk. then they see the social workers. to discuss any benefits that they may be due. so that's a progra

we also have a va clinician dr.al who will share with us her findings on the health care utilization of iraq and afghanistan veterans. and finally on our third panel we'll hear from the administration and share views and the views of two important veterans organizations, amvets and the wounded warrior project. i want to thank everybody coming, members and those in the audience, those who are going to be testifying and i now yield to our ranking member. >> thank you, mr. chairman. and thank you for taking the leadership on this subject. of course, we have all raised serious concerns over many years about the backlog of claims and now there are a record of service men and women returning homes with scars from the war and now simply is not the time to delay their benefits. the report you mentioned, that was released last year by the va inspector general focusing on the delay of our service members getting an appointment for medical exam in order to process their claim for compensation is just one more example of how th

va employees. doctors and nurses in other federal facilities -- they are accountable for complying with their own payrolls. my question, dr. jesse, about the reason for this bill -- the be a -- does the va collect data on how many medical professionals with the va over the lack of bargaining rights over unfair type practices? second, is there a good chance a physician who's promised incentive pay to come to the va , when the va rates that promise, the employee does not have the recourse he or she might have? dr. jesse, if you weigh in on both of those. >> in response to the first question, i do not know the answer offhand. i will have to get back to you. the second answer, -- the answer to the second question, we have done very well over the past several years in its recruiting and maintaining work force banks to the congress for the bill they passed in 2006, i believe. it was an extraordinary effort that really changed our capability to get high-quality physicians to come to the va and stay there. i can speak to that from a personal sense. i have been the chief of cardiology in richmond and that had to recruits very comp

va alone. mr. blank and dr. jesse, i want to at least acknowledge the fact both of you apologized for not having testimony here on time. i will note i didn't hear either one of you say this won't happen again. now we've got rules in the committee, and i might say, mr. mcwilliam, i didn't even hear you apologize. this may be a joke to some of you. i don't know. maybe it's the instruction not to have it here to where committees can thoroughly go through and dissect what an agency says. many of the bills we don't have the views on. it is impossible for me to believe that pieces of legislation that have been introduced for some time you have no views on, you have no cost estimates on. it raises big questions when you take lightly the committee rules of about when legislation testimony needs to be here. i guess i shouldn't be bewildered we can't hit that lines that are statutory for claims processing or for other things when there is no sense of the deadline being anything other than ago. the chairman raised an issue

institute, community anti-drug coalitions of america, alexandria, va; jordan burnham, mental health advocate, active minds inc., washington, dc; dr. wendy greene, assistant director of trauma and critical care and program developer, screening, brief interventions and referral to treatment program, howard university hospital, washington, dc. fran, what is the definition of behavioral health, and how do we distinguish between prevention, early intervention, and treatment within that definition? the definition for behavioral health for samhsa is we are taking the substance abuse and mental health prevention, intervention, and treatment programs, and we are encasing it within the disorder realm. so substance abuse, prevention, intervention, and treatment are exactly the same, same levels, and so is mental health. we are finding that mental health properties for prevention, especially, are very similar to the properties of substance abuse, and treatment is different in one respect, but the intervention to get people into treatment is very similar. it is similar, but there are differences between the treatment aspect of substance use d

va, randy, republican caller. caller: dr. benjamin, good morning. my name is randy o'neal and i am a presidential fitness partner and winner of the 2007 inaugural community health leadership award. i received that award because of my mobile fitness business, which has traveled to over 1000 schools and a state of virginia. i have 30 stationary bicycles that fit children as young as three years old and i entertain them with video and music while we on average burned 300 to 400 calories, 3-5 miles. what i am shocked at is how little care or how little money is invested in the preventive programs in the lower schools, when so much money, $700 to $1,000, is spent on an athlete in middle and high school. so, it seems totally unreasonable when you had a $2 million for the budget and you have less than $100,000 in a division with 10,000 students and to be spent on preventive health care. host: your response? guest: i think you are absolutely right. we have to give kids things that are fun, make exercise fun and enjoyable -- enjoyable, part of what we do eve