drr dr. webbmplaint, he says to find out some of these physicians don't have the knowledge but are still able to get through by cheating, it's despicable. do you agree with it? >> i agree. i agree. now, i can say, we don't have anymore information on other programs. we haven't heard similar reports from other residents, but if and when we ever hear of any, we're going to track them down. >> reporter: we wanted to find out just how widespread the the use of recalls really is. so we figured we'd come here to chicago, to the largest medical convention in the united states. the radiological society of north america, which draws 60,000 radiologists from around the world. it wasn't long before we started getting answers. i've been taking osteo bi-flex for several years now. i really can't see myself not taking it. osteo bi-flex is a great product. i can go back and do gardening with comfort. [ male announcer ] osteo bi-flex, the glucosamine chondroitin supplement with 5-loxin advanced. shows improvement

dr. webbd us to find out that some of these physicians don't have the knowledge but are able to still get through by cheat, it's despicable. do you agree with that? >> i agree. i agree. now i can say we don't have any more information on other programs. we haven't heard similar reports from other residents, but if and when we ever hear of any, we're going to track them down. >> reporter: we wanted to find out just how wide spread the use of recalls really is so we figured we'd come here to chicago, to the largest medical convention in the united states, the radiological society of north america, which draws 60,000 radiologists from around the world. it wasn't wrong before we started getting answers. bag of ice anti-freeze wash and dry diesel self-serve fix a flat jumper cables 5% cashback right now, get 5% cashback at gas stations. it pays to discover. i took some steep risks in my teens. i'd never ride without one now. and since my doctor prescribed lipitor, i won't go without it for my high

but as far as dr. webbncerned, we've got a document, an army document that basically said, look, this guy was a remarkably talented resident, that's their quote, who demonstrated conduct unbecoming an officer. i think what they're saying is he's a good doctor, maybe not a good soldier. he did have the right to speak out, says the army, but they wanted to be notified in advance. >> did you get an idea of how often this occurs in other medical specialties? this test sharing? >> we only found hard evidence with the american board of internal medicine. they suspended 139 doctors back in 2010 who they found were leaving the test exam and going to a test exam company and helping that company to generate a recall exam. the director there told us that this was a brain dumping, a case of brain dumping, called it grows grossly unethical and says

dr. webbs to find out that some of these physicians don't have the knowledge but are able to still get through by cheating, it's despicable. do you agree with that? >> i agree. i agree. now i can say we don't have any more information on other programs. we haven't heard similar reports from other residents, but if and when we ever hear of any, we're going to track them down. >> reporter: we wanted to find out just how wide spread the use of recalls really is so we figured we'd come here to chicago, to the largest medical convention in the united states, the radiological society of north america, which draws 60,000 radiologists from around the world. it wasn't wrong before we started getting answers. people told me i wasn't going to do anything. and i just decided i have more to offer than that. i put myself through nursing school, and then i decided to go get a doctorate degree. university of phoenix gave me the knowledge to make a difference in people's lives. my name is dr. kimberly horton.

webb took his complaint of cheating to the very board that certifies radiologists. dr.ary becker is the american board of radiology's executive director. isn't it cheating? >> we would call it cheating. our exam security policy would call it cheating. >> reporter: we showed becker copies of the recall exams from the military's san antonio program. he acknowledged the recalls were very close to the actual test. >> outraged by this. we took this case to our professionalism committee. the result of a deliberation, there and the decision of the board was to go directly back to the training director, the dean of the institution, and we've had those discussions. >> reporter: dr. webb, the complainant, he told us to find out some don't have the knowledge but are able to get through by cheating, it's despicable. do you agree with that? >> i agree. i agree. now, i can say we don't have a -- more information on other programs. we haven't heard similar reports from residents. but if and when we ever hear of any, we're going to track them down. >> reporter: in fact, we did track do

>> dr. webbaid to find out these physicians don't have the knowledge and are able to get through by cheating is despicable. do you agree? >> i agree. i agree. now, i can say we don't have any more information on other programs. we haven't heard similar reports from other residents. if and when we hear of any, we will track them down. >> we wanted to find out how widespread the use of recalls really is. so we figured we would come here to chicago to the largest medical convention in the united states. the radiological society of north america. that draws 60,000 radiologists from around the world. it wasn't long before we started getting answers. >> cnn investigation reveals that radiologist residents hits a well-known program known as recall test questions for years to prepare for a critical exam. >> the american board of radiologist call this is cheating. as we learned, it doesn't stop there. how widespread is the cheating and also what did doctors have to say about it? drew griffin investigates.

webb took his complaint of cheating to the very board that certifies radiologists. dr.y becker is the american board of radiology's executive director. isn't it cheating? >> we would call it cheating. our exam security policy would call it cheating. >> reporter: we showed becker copies of the recall exams from the military's san antonio program. very close to the actual test. >> outraged by this. we took this case to our professionalism committee. the result of a deliberation, there and the decision of the board was to go directly back to the training director, the dean of the institution, and we've had those discussions. >> reporter: dr. webb, the complainant, he told us to find out some don't have the knowledge but to get through by cheating, it's despicable. do you agree with it? >> i agree. i agree. now, i can say we don't have a -- more information on other programs. we haven't heard similar reports from residents. but if and when we ever hear of any, we're going to track them down. >> reporter: in fact, we did track down information on other programs at the radiol

dr. matthew webb is a 31-year-old army doctor accepted into one of the military's largest radiology residencyrograms. a san antonio, texas, based complex that includes the place he trained as a resident. it wasn't long before he learn about a stunning secret about most of his fellow doctors. they were cheating to pass medical exams. >> it wasn't until i took my physics exam that i found out that the way the residents were studying for the exam was to actually study from verbatim recalled back tests that had been performed by prior residents. >> reporter: to become certified by the american board of radiology, or abr, doctors must pass two written exams and an oral exam. webb took the the first exam in the fall of 2008. to his surprise, he failed that first test, which focuses on physics. he says he went to the director of the radiology program at the time. >> he told me that if you want to pass the abr physics exam, you absolutely have to use the recalls. and i told him, sir, i believe that's cheating. i don't believe in doing that. i can do it on my own. he then went on to tell me, you have

though, senator webb came out with a very big proposal to try to deal with a lot of the differences we see based on race in crime and punishment in america. it was something that animated dre today. as you know, other than in small areas like the crack cocaine disparity, the larger issues have not been tackled by this congress or quite frankly by this white house, where do you come down on that and do you think that there's anything that congress can do in that important area? >> i think that congress has to deal with the inequality in the judicial system. there have been attempts to do that. we were successful with the crack cocaine issue. but it's going to be more difficulty to do it in other areas, simply because we have got one reality that is painful and then we have got one prejudice that also creates pain. the reality is that we have to reduce crime in the african american community. because the failure to do so gives the bigegest weapons to dissuede anybody of having any opinions about justice that would lean toward african americans. on the other side, i think we have a situation where the problems are so great, and the cooperation in congress is so little that w