dr. bennet omalu who's a brilliant forensic neuropathologist and the first person diagnosed was an old steeler of mike webstering out of his truck and in train stations and when doctor began to study his brain tissue, we found the kind of damage that, you know, he had only found previously in people with dementia or by the way people who had boxed for a living. and now obviously, we know more about this than we ever did before but that hit that you just showed, i mean, it's a vivid memory. i grew up a giants fan in upstate new york and teammates would say later, they thought frank was dead in what moment. he was stretched out flat on his back and in the world where we discuss con suggestions so often, brian, because it's better for business than calling them what they are which is brain wounds, that was really the first famous concussion in nfl history. >> so if you're the nfl, mike, this is a tough one. it's a violent game. players have only gotten bigger, stronger, faster. we've seen head to head hits. we saw quarterback of the rams as recently as last weekend punch drunk, staggered and allowed to stay in t