dr. william j. barber and jim wallace join us for a conversation about political organizing on the so-called religious left. we're glad you joined us. all of that coming up in just a moment. >>> and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >>> please welcome reverend dr. william barber and activist jim wallace. delighted to have you both here. so weird to find you guys on the schedule at the same time in l.a. so thank you for coming to see us. i've been anxious to have this conversation, particularly in this moment of uncertainty and fear and angst where i think people are losing hope. a conversation that obviously is rooted in our spirituality, but i think can be a bit more broad than that. when we talk about faith in this country, we tend to talk about it always, jim, from the perspective of those on the right. but for some reason they have been able to corner the market it seems on conversations about faith and freedom. why is that? >> the corner of the market, the corner o