dr. wootan. ms. wootan: there are a lot of people going into pizza restaurants, it may only be 10% but those people who do go in have the right to nutrition information like those people who are ordering online. if they don't think it matters then they don't need to have a menu board and list the options that are there. but if they have a menu board and think people need to know what's on the menu and list prices for it, then they need to post the calories. as you said, obesity really is one of the most pressing public health -- ms. schakowsky: when i order pizza, there's a menu attached to it so i can do it by phone or online again. why not on that menu? just list that? ms. liddle: that's what we're proposing. that we bring the calorie information right on the electronic or online menu. ms. schakowsky: when i get the pizza, there's usually a paper menu attached to it. why couldn't it be on that? a carryout menu? ms. liddle: we consider those promotional materials. they're ads with flyers that say ord

dr. wootan. ms. otan: there are a lot of people going into pizza restaurants, it may only be 10% but those people who do go in have the right to nutrition information like those people who are ordering online. if they don't think it matters then they don't need to have a menu board and list the options that are there. but if they have a menu board and think people need to know what's on the menu and list prices for it, then they need to post the calories. as you said, obesity really is one of the most pressing public health -- ms. schakowsky: when i order pizza, there's a menu attached to it so i can do it by phone or online again. why not on that menu? just list that? ms. liddle: that's what we're proposing. that we bring the calorie information right on the electronic or online menu. ms. schakowsky: when i get the pizza, there's usually a paper menu attached to it. why couldn't it be on that? a carryout menu? ms. liddle: we consider those promotional materials. they're ads with flyers that say order

dr. wootan: absolutely. when the law was written it included not only restaurant bus t also other food service establishments and that was meant to cover the broad range of food service establishments that provide prepared foods. in fact, i remember this supermarket industry trying to get an amendment to strike that part of the law, make it clear that they were excluded, and they were not successful in that effort. they knew they would be included, they should have been preparing for this and getting ready as the restaurant industry has been. mr. green: from a consumer perspective, can you discuss what you think the impact from having certain food establishments exempted? ms. wootan: not having nutrition information in supermarkets and convenience stores will limit people's access to information. they are increasingly competing with restaurants and people are stopping at the grocery store and buying fried chicken or meat loaf with side dishes as they do at restaurants. more and more, people are turning to su