on paper and we'll be ready for both of them. >> drake mcfeely, what is another trend in publishing that we should be looking for in the next couple of years? >> that's interesting. i would say, you know, i watched the growth of the huge conglomerate but also watch what's happening with independent publishing houses. i like the fact that there's more access to the marketplace these days and i think that will be a very healthy thing. not only for norton which is an independent publishing house, but for lots of smaller independents that are growing. >> who was w. w. norton? >> w. w. norton founded the firm in 1923 where 839 years old at this point. he had been in the import export business tier key and his wife, he was deeply involved in the founding of the firm, had a passion for books. it began as an abdication. he was still in the import export business by day, started to publish books by nick. three years later he was doing it full-time and the rest is history. >> you just revived in 1920s in print, having just because we had. very excited about an initiati initiative. we have owned th

we have been talking with drake mcfeely, chairman and president of the norton company. >> what are you reading this summer? book tv wants to know. >> i'm wrapping up a citizens of london which came out a couple of years ago. a picture of london during the war and three very prominent people, rather strongly held views that we should get into the war. sent over there by president roosevelt, their foreign aid program. the ambassador had replaced joseph kennedy, partial to the germans. i suspect that is the reason roosevelt felt at home. a marvelous book about the three of them and their interaction with churchill and their advocacy, their impressive advocacy of of the united states breaking out of the isolationist mother and getting into the war on the map of england. when olsen had previously written a wonderful book, which i highly recommend it called the troublesome in men about the members of parliament who rallied behind winston churchill and opposed the nazis throughout the 30's and arbitrated his rise to the prime minister's job when neville chamberlain fell. so these two books, a

. >> host: booktv c-span2 we have been talking with drake mcfeely chairman and president of w.w.norton company. >> host: well-known author joining us here at book expo america about his book the obama white house vs. the supreme court. is there contest between the obama white house and the supreme court? >> guest: you bet. atom of day chaebol meant that american history was the liberal democratic president and a conservative supreme court issued after issue you see a conflict at work. >> host: what are some examples? >> the most erratic is the case the court struck down the limits to giving to campaigns but it said it in motion to do regulate the american campaign. it a vivid demonstration many people who remember the "state of the union" address the president slapped the supreme court and justice of the dough shuck his head and said not true. and what i love about this scene it was concrete health care case has a of greater conflict with the conservatives of the court. >> host: the interview june 12 -- 25, a 2012, the health care decision could come down any monday? >> my mind i