spring was still officially days away, but in draper, utah, its promise was clear.orning dew on the brush. the crisp air. the sun rising over the wasatch mountains. it should have been a beautiful day. but for a jogger on the jordan river parkway that morning, it was anything but. >> 911, what is the address of the emergency? >> you know, i'm not real sure. i'm at the river bottom, and there's some pools of blood. and i'm guessing it's just an animal, but in the water right by the river there's a shoe. >> sergeant chad carpenter was one of the first on the scene. this is what the jogger sees, blood here. pooling blood? clotted blood? >> yeah, so basically in this area right here, you had the blood droplets. and then on the cement right here you had blood in this area. on that beam right there. in this area you had a little bit of blood. it was about a mile from where the jogger saw the blood. as the chopper got closer, it was clear there was a body in the river. sergeant, when the divers pulled the victim out, what were the injuries they observed to her face? >> she

draper, you have spelled out i think so well why.ean, all of the different levels of uncertainty and the things that can make us sad or anxious. and so i know you say it's important to reach out. what should people do right now today if they feel like they're suffering? >> there's a number of things people can do. even though we forget that there's -- that we're so focused on perhaps what we have lost or what we can't do and used to be able to do. forget about what we do now. most important things is stay in the present because we can't do anything about the future right now. we need to stay connected. we talked about social distancing which is not my favorite word. it's physical distancing but staying socially connected. we need to stay socially connected. so who in our lives help us feel safe, secured, cared about and valued. the other thing stay focused on the things that are within our control. things that can help us move forward. so things like how are we not only maintaining our social health, and the physical health. how are

robert draper is joining us right now. he's a writing for the "new york times" magazine, best-selling author. his brand-new book is entitled "to start a war: how the bush administration took america into iraq." it comes out tuesday. congratulations on the new book. how do you think this issue of biden's vote in favor of the war back in 2002/2003, how is it going to play in this election? >> listening to your previous guests talk about this horrible fix that america is in right now, and asking ourselves the question, how in the world did we get here? to put our government in the hands of a reality tv star who boasted i alone can fix it, to answer the question, you have to go back in time to a moment when our traditional experts and traditional experience abjectly failed up. i'm referring to the iraq war. and that includes not just the bush administration and its star-studded national security staff. but also the legislative branch, the media, also the intelligence community. and as you mentioned, then senator biden cast a v

and say adam dr draper and and most importantly i would say a big thank you troy customers rate we're expecting the other day over a 1000000 downloads on the android store max can you believe that you know so those are the people that have been supporting us along the way end and want to you know come on your show and say that and we have that simon dixon our there back to the future who was really really early supporter along with myself and so what right we will read that article what the 5 major points but give us the biggest point as you recall when you look at the case the main point was at the end was we were fighting the fact that we thought that this bank then was unconstitutional right so one of the main points that everything went up to is that judges asked well how is it that this is associate of companies can claim that you know that certain thing is unconstitutional the constitution applies to people and so in next tuesday as well give us an example of where a person was directly impacted and that's i don't know if you if you recall the full story. a year ago or so year a

saying i'm trying to do my don draper. tell me about orange is the new black is indeed in that you in more of a just shoot me ensemble but it must have given you competence right it was such a big hit yeah that was it was really really exciting that was you know 2000 maybe 13 that i got cast not show and it was really exciting because netflix didn't have any shows at that time and so i was the one of the 1st ones that was being made and i didn't really know what i was auditioning for but it ended up being such a huge hit and it was so it was such a wild experience to be a part of this amazingly you know stacked cast and there's like 70 main members in the cast so you know i kind of expected to blend into the crowd but people really binge that show and they got very invested in all the characters and right away just walking down the street in different countries people would recognize me from that and so i was that was really surreal. it's a weird feel like i remember when kanye came out for trump i said i betcha they do an

we have a question from dave draper. >> thank you. this is an interesting session. i appreciate the opportunity to be part of this. my question builds on the theme that daniel forrester mentioned. i wanted to focus on the time in the middle of 1864, in the summer when atlanta had not fallen, and there was so much pressure to end the war, particularly in the north. that point, abraham lincoln was absolutely certain he would not win reelection. at that particular juncture, he was saying i have this much time to do the best i can before the next president. that is a very different thing from what daniel was talking about the uncertainty of the open-ended position that we find ourselves in now. you have started to answer the question in your response to thatl, but i see that as for me would be the most valuable thing to learn about how he dealt with stuff. that is the eye of the needle that i'm trying to thread emotionally. -- not knowing exactly how long it will go, and trying to stay focused on the things we can do that will make the world battle -- better. this is a

starts on saturday at the eastman town center music artist an oakland native rafale study ke tony draper and nba star ricky davis will be among many others handing out underserved communities with groceries and personal protective equipment. our kron four's reyna harvey spoke with raw feel study coup is also hosting about what to expect. >>he just a challenge is challenges and genia has used in new york different places and i was i guess that's interesting how we can work this out, but i can bring this to oakland, happening on saturday at 12 o'clock trying to speed over 3,000 people going to be there from my 12. >>so at an afternoon until everything is gone. identity cannot be working some going to be you know bring groceries to your car. not just going to be there and will be asked the the one working next to me is. amazing that i get to you know go to the cause and have people you know families in need. you know floor just people who wanted to help other other people. >>there will be 2 contactless drive-thru lanes with the separate walk up site following social distancing guidelines of

oakland it will begin at the east wants town center music artist and open native rafi all sadiq tony draper and retired nba player ricky davis will be among many others handing out groceries and personal protective equipment in underserved communities. kron 4 talk with city who is also hosting the event about what to expect. >>he just a challenge is challenges and genia has used in new york different places and i was i guess that's interesting how we can work this out i can bring this to oakland, happening on saturday at 12 o'clock trying to speed over 3,000 people going to be there from my 12. >>12 o'clock in afternoon until everything is gone. identity and i'd be working some going to be you know bring groceries to your car. not just going to be there and will be asked the the one working next to me is. amazing that i get to you know go to the cause and have people you know families in need. you know floor just people who wanted to help other other people. >>there will be 2 non-contact drive-thru lanes with a separate walk up site following social distancing guidelines. >>time now for sch

>>music artist an oakland native rafale sidique tony draper and nba star ricky davis will be among many others handing out underserved communities with the groceries and personal protective equipment. our par fours reyna harvey spoke with raw feel study coup is also hosting what to expect. >>he just any challenges challenges and genia has used in new york different places and i was i guess that's interesting how we can work this out i can bring this to oakland, happening on saturday at 12 o'clock trying to speed over 3,000 people going to be there from my 12. >>so at an afternoon until everything is gone. >>identity cannot be working some going to be you know bring groceries to your car. not just going to be there will be asked the they want to work in that to me is. amazing that i get to you know go to the cause and have people you know families in need. you know floor just people who wanted to help other other people. >>there will be 2 non-contact drive-thru lanes with a separate walk up site following of course social distancing guidelines for this event. >>still to come classes goin

bush, i'd be fascinated to read draper's book in july about the iraq war. Ãb he thinks george w.d for it. people who Ãbhe is not and probably never will recover from the iraq war. the summer of 2005 he came into the white house after reading paul berry's book on the spanish flu of 1918 and said to fran townsend online security advisor, i want to plan for dealing with the pandemic and i want it soon, comprehensive and then he gave a speech about it. let's imagine the pandemic had hit. he would've been prepared. he then, by the way, gave the plan to the obama administration built on it ended there pandemic work. my point is, sometimes friends that do smart thing thinking about the future being long-term oriented camacho sort short-term oriented, they get no credit because the disaster never happened. how do we way that? obviously that's not in the same category as going to war in iraq. one would think about presidencies we talked earlier about presidents and their times. so you evaluate a presidency what he did in africa with taskbar helping to with an extraordinary and very succes

they all have lots of women who live in them, not betty draper housewives as donald trump tweeted about yesterday, but real-life women who may not agree with aoc but they may not be into donald trump's party calling her a bleeping bleep. here is aoc responding. >> in front of reporters i was called a [ bleep ]. these are the words that were liv liviy e y yy levied against a congresswoman. he was not alone. he was walking shoulder-to-shoulder with representative roger williams. that's when we start to see this issue is not about one incident. it is cultural. it is cultural. it is a culture of lack of impunity, of accepting, of violence and violent language against women. an entire structure of power that supports that. >> the entire republican party is congressman yahoo or yoyo or whatever his name is. this is who they are. >> that's right. part of the problem that the president has right now, is that in 2016 he was running against a far weaker not just candidate but also campaign. donald trump supporters tend to deeply identify with him. they almost see themselves in the president. and

writer at large for "the new york times" magazine and contributor to national geographic, robert draperook out today entitled "how to start a war: how the bush administration took" excuse me. how the bush administration took america into iraq. very different than how to. >> thank you, robert. thank you so much for being with us. you know, we've talked about this book offline once or twice, but very excited to read it once it came out. tell me what new you have discovered. here we are, it's hard to believe, 17 years after the initial invasion. what have we learned about the lead-up to the war and how we blundered into such a colossal almost vietnam-style disaster. >> thanks for having me, joe and mika. the words of congressman lewis are resonating with me now. the words, find a way to get in the way. that was not an exortation taking place in the bush administration. i think among the sort of big-picture things i noticed in reporting this book was that far from dissenting voices being encouraged, far from the president soliciting what could go wrong, instead there was a culture of consen

bush is -- i will read robert draper's book in july. donald trump says the decision to go to iraq was the worst mistake in american history and he should be impeached for it. people, it is not just what he will never recover from. in summer of 2005 he came to the white house after reading the book on spanish flu in 1918 and said to the advisor i want to plan for dealing with a pandemic and i wanted soon, comprehensive. let's imagine the pandemic had hit. he would have been prepared, and there pandemic. my point is sometimes presidents do smart things, not just short-term oriented for which they get no credit, how do we way that? that's not in the same category. we think about presidencies, presidents in their time and you evaluate helping to diminish the number of aids cases and orphans who had aids in africa and others who had it as well with extraordinary and successful in humanitarian gesture so i am still coming to a theory how you look at a presidency and weigh the various elements when you have such a big thing as the iraq war, th