you didn't go to seminary a fellow pastor rick anderson of the south mountain community church in draper utah was it one of the critics of the respond. well again i don't think much about it i just believe that you know god it was god's plan for my life for me to do be doing what i'm doing are soft on theology i feel like i stick with things that are really no make in the making god good and relevant in the scriptures because the best if you go to seminary well you can become a pastor i mean i trained under my father for many years so you can be ordained from a church of more dane from like wood so there's not you can be like you know you have a fear to miss something but not go into some of it well after i have friends that go to seminary and i encourage people that want to get in the ministry to go but i feel i for my for my life it was the right thing you know i just sometimes you can i don't come at it from a theological point of view and i think that's part of my success and it i'm not trying to just explain scriptures or you know sometimes you can know things that would would taint how