simple algorithms we could have put together through the drd and the nih and fda, but we haven't done that. especially what's happened is despite people like admiral really trying, instead he's gotten a lot of flack for not beib being utilized when this is -- when it needed some direction, i would say, from the cdc to really say exactly how they need to be utilized instead of just having professional pushback, we should have had the professionals say, this is a great new tool and embraced it and figure out how to use it the best way possible. instead, it's more or less been pushed to the side. meanwhile, it's a gold mine of testing, especially that particular test is an amazing test. it's almost 100% accurate for infectious people. exactly what we're talking about here. and it's just -- it hasn't been well utilized at this point. >> if i can just jump in. i think one place where there was a little -- actually two places where michael and i disagree. one of them he was right about and i was wrong. i argued in the beginning we needed like 20 million tests a day. he did some modeling wit