we saw what derek holland was able do especially in the second half. dreweranz two years ago was really, really good, coming back, he knows anything they give him will be a bonus. these guys are older but they're not that far removed from being really good pitchers in the majors. there's a lot of potential. >> you said on paper they could be one of the best starting rotations in the national league. we don't know what we're going to see in the outfield or the final bench spot. how you do see this all coming into play? >> i have no idea. they're still picking guys up. i think there's a decent chance before thursday that they add another guy to the mix. i think they're trying to figure out who outfielders. >> a lot to decide. we'll see you live on giants pregame. >> can you play outfield? the giants might need you. >> where is that? >> the grassy knoll. >> i think i can do that. >> by the pitcher, right in there. the a's open in oakland. >> we're going to have a chance of isolated thunderstorms. so we're going to have to watch that. dry weather, friday, satur