saying that father drinan was a tool of the communist party. well, this was in the beginning of a long battle after j. edgar hoover died. between congress and the f.b.i. over the powers that the f.b.i. had exerted for decades, under hoover, to gather political information, conduct wiretapping, plant bugs, hidden microphones in people's homes and offices, break into their homes and offices and steal their personal effects. and this was part of the great battle of the 1970's that resulted in the fall of richard nixon. the investigations into government misconduct by the c.i.a. and the f.b.i. and eventually passage of new laws that restricted the f.b.i. >> in that same chapter, you have the following quote. "reverend drinan started shouting. they shoot to kill, they shoot to kill he recounted. i figure the guy had gone completely bonkers, healy said." who is healy and what were -- >> here was an f.b.i. agent who had worked under hoover for decades hunting communists. and he had the job of giving congressmen a tour of the new f.b.i. headquarters wh

and richard drinan went to the firing -- a range in the basement where f.b.i. agents keep their shooting target skills up. and he asked what the bureau's policy was on firearms. and agent healy told him, well, you know, we try to settle things peaceably. and then what, he said? then we shoot to kill. and drinan starting going down the halls of the justice department yelling "they shoot to kill." it was emblematic and why i have it in "enemies: a history of the f.b.i.." this is emblematic of the kind of struggle that was taking place. just beginning to take place between the f.b.i. as hoover had left it, after 48 years in power. and the rest of the government of the united states. >> what's the story behind you taking 25, 27 years i think it is, on a freedom of information request? >> when literally a few weeks after my last book, "legacy of ashes, history of the c.i.a." came out, i got a call from a lawyer here in washington who had represented another reporter from "the new york times." in a freedom of information act suit that he, the reporter, had filed. in