in china they built a high hi dro ectric dam, and if they close the gates, you better move. and here it's nonsensical as well. we need reasonable regulation and understand the cost benefit of what regulation we have. and need to have businesses function as businesses. the government can't run all the businesses and private business and corporate business is what built america, in my opinion. we need to let it thrive, in a sense by leaving it alone. >> we are almost out of time, but before we ask the last question, first to remind our guests of future speakers, next week secretary arne duncan of the u.s. department of education will address the national press club. and on september 13th, mr. beckman will speak on eliminating hunger, people and congress. second i would like to present our guests with the traditional gifts we give all, the treasured national press club mug. thank you for coming today. we have one final question for you. this is not been the best year in newseadlines for energy extraction. the massey coal company explosion in april was dominating headlines. but