how to get drudge coverage, and brian rosenwall.author of ta"talk radio's america." >> it is essential, mike, if he loses it, he is done. he has a huge problem and they're the signal. when he really has a problem. >> what motivates matt drudge? clicks or ideology? >> clicks and his own sense of humor. but as it relates to this topic with trump and impeachment, there is no question that his tone has shifted and in some ways it is because he knows what side his bread is buttered on. he knows he is driving the clicks and he has that incredible influence. he is still lots of people's ohm pages. he was always motivated by the best story, the most clickable story. that is something to grapple with. >> take us in the exchanges that you had with him. what was it like to try to work him. how successful were you. share some insiekt, he is such a man of mystery. >> the mystery is a big part of his appeal. i have to say when i was working most closely with him. twitter was just a gleam in someone's eye, and the rapid response was really importa

let's start with matt drudge. so the drudge report as people know aggregates different articles.chooses to use as headlines. and so here is oliver darcy of cnn's latest reporting. matt drudge is reacting to changing circumstances, a person close to the media mogul who says drudge has grown exasperated with trump told cnn business. not only is drudge's website covering the impeachment news, it's featuring commentary from some of the president's fiercest critics. that's significant, michael. >> it is significant because the holy trinity of a firewall for the president is drudge, fox news, and a.m. talk radio. and there are cracks in two of the three. one being drudge. the other being fox news. as you correctly point out, he aggregates. he doesn't provide original content. but through the selections that he makes, alisyn, you get a perspective. you get a point of view. and don't lose sight of the fact that the drudge report came on the scene the last time the country went through this. matt drudge broke a lot of stories in the 1990. i remember the story in particular about the clint

cnn's oliver darcy following changes on the drudge report. you and i chatted during the commercial.'s been hammering him at a level we have never seen the last couple of weeks. >> it's important because drudge is considered to be one of the more powerful people in conservative media. so goes drudge, so goes the conservative media and to see him hammer the president repeatedly day after day on this impeachment inquiry, on the ukraine call has been remarkable. now, we don't know yet whether he'll be able to pull the rest of the conservative media to his narrative. something he's been successful doing over the years when he sets a narrative other sites hoping to get linked on his page to get large volumes of traffic go towards his narrative right stories framed on what drudge is leaking. it's not clear is that will happen and if you'll see other conservative news organizations frame their stories in ways drudge might like and link to. that's something to pay attention to, what made drudge one of the more powerful members of conservative media universe for some time. even regardless of

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that's the front page of the drudge report. that influential conservative matt drudge is souring on the president. another crack in the teflon armor, you think? >> look, i think they want to send him a message. i think that finally after three years of complicit silence and cowardice, some republicans have found their spine, reacquainted themselves with their conscience and traditional republican values and are actually speaking out against trump. the problem is trump thinks he owns them. he thinks he owns them the way i own my four-pound poodle, who can't live without me, who won't eat without me. so he thinks he can get away with doing anything he wants with or without republicans and congress approving of it or not because they need him to win their primaries, and they need him to win their elections, and because they've let him get away with it for three years. this is a guy who boasted of sexual assault and they supported him, who paid hush money to a stripper and they supported him, who has enriched himself and violated e

was was widely accepted or widely appreciated across and i think it's one of the few things that drudge is. that has not been lambasted like some of the other movies recently made and speaking of that hillary mr druggy has now officially moved on from the presidency of the e.c.b. but some of the vendettas from his tenure there seem to be lingering over his legacy all over the c.e.o. of all yawns europe's biggest insurer chose to air some of his grievances with mr druggy in an interview with a poignant times and put a punctuation on the drama by delivering his critique as if he were directly addressing mr druggy what's the grievance here between these 2 yes he did he actually what he was referring to really and he was lambasting with the doom and gloom sort of like doom loops do loops and the do loops all the fact that really basically policies that were put in place by mario draghi they were really encouraging both bankers and insurers to buy government debt will buying government debt was risk free 0 risk and 0 capital capital charges sort of us do this really kind of bets against busi

we are two weeks in and back then the only thing you had to check on the news was e-mail and the drudge report. now you add social media and 70 cycles to this and the president is going to go after the media. greg: it's basically what you are saying if he thought the lewinsky scandal. >> that's exactly what i'm saying and by the way. [applause] greg: it's worse. >> by the way what is a blank strap? greg: i don't know. forget about the blank store. >> maybe you will tell me later. >> you're killing me with a blank strap. >> there are million ways. how is h it that the word jock s the one word that president trump self edits? in three years the only word he is ever soft attitude is jock. what the hell is going on? greg: you know how i love to do research. what i wanted to do and then i'll shut up is rated briefing from a column from "the news york times." in 2015 we have been worried about how much danger donald trump posted democracy. now if impeachment moving forward a new question is gaining relevance. when or will president trump leave the white house? they are saying even if he's imp

and indeed, drudge report picked it up, and they did muster traffic on it. this is what has set the tone for the entire discussion, is a little piece of click bait that was written in a time of desperation for a news outlet that was about to get shattered. ered. likeo get shutt kara says, there is evidence. it is just this weird thing where, speaking of marketplace for ideas, what they want is affirmative action for conservative viewpoints on social media platforms. you don't get a quota system for your ideas, that is not how it works, like that is not how reality works. that is not how the marketplace of ideas works. just speaking on that subject specifically, we look at what happened with the genocide in myanmar and fake accounts being generated by the military to promote anti-rohingya sentiment. you look at the history of that, and we are talking about the party in power using social media to promote viewpoints discriminatory towards a despised minority that is being denied citizenship and it turned into a refugee population, and you see facebook cracking

report" would pick this up and we'd do monster traffic r because of it and "the drudge report" picked it up five minutes after it was put out and they did monster traffic. this set the tone for the entirs discussion aio literal piece of click bait written in a time ofn desperation for a a news outlets about to get shuttered. like kara says, there's no evidence. it's non-sensical. this bringing up the fairness doctrine, it's this weird thingi where speaking ofs ju marketpla for ideas, what they want is ntn affirmative action for don' conservative viewpoints on youi social mediade platforms. there is, you don't get a quota system for your ideas.s. that's not how it works. like that is not how reality ect works. that is not how the marketplace of ideas works. and just speaking on that subject specifically, we look at what happened with the genocide in myanmar and look at what happened with fake accounts being generated by the military. to promote anti-rohingya sentiments. we're talking about a party in h power using social media to promote viewpoints discriminatory towards a despised min

. >> reporter: in a combative appearance on "meet the press", republican senator ron johnson drudging up past investigations. >> it's pretty clear we're only dealing with the facts that we have. not the facts you wish them to be. >> i can't get the answers, and i can't get the answers, the american people can't get the answers. something fishy happened during the 2016 campaign in the transition, early part of the trump presidency, and we still don't know. >> reporter: small cracks are forming in the president's wall of support, including this criticism from susan collins. >> asking china to get involved in investigating a political opponent is completely inappropriate. >> reporter: former secretary of state colin powell making headlines for these comments about his party. >> the republican party has got to get a grip on itself right now. republican leade and mbers of the congress, both senate and the house are holding back because they're terrified of what will happen to any one of them if they speak up. will they lose a primary? our foreign policy is in shambles, in my humble judgmen

>> one of the things i've been paying attention to is the drudge report. he seems to have completely turned on the president. he has, for a while, been sort of the assignment editor, if you will. so him potential turning is huge. >> right now his headline is second whistle-blower comes forward. he's not shying away from the news. >> no, he's spotlighting the news, and also spotlighting the commentary of some of the people the president doesn't like, like shep smith, like judge napolitano. tucker carlson is now saying the call is inappropriate. >> he's saying there's no way to spin the call. >> that's what he's saying. there's a caveat, obviously. he is defending the president, saying that while he may have made an inappropriate phone call, it doesn't rise to the level of impeachment, but it's a bit of a retreat from the right-wing narrative where the president's calling was perfect, there is noing to look at, and hey, look at joe biden and hillary clinton. this is a big of a retreat, maybe repositioning, but constituent noteworthy. >> julia, you worked at

drudge had a picture of hillary in a halloween witch's hat like the witch is coming back.nk of myself, maybe she's a villain for the republicans, they want to beat up on her. >> dana: i don't know. >> greg: really, juan? >> dana: the thing is, she's been on a book tour with her daughter that coincided with this process and the timing of it. so partly she's out there and commenting -- the book is about successful women in history and all of the great stories. >> greg: which is why she's not in it. >> dana: but besides her obituary, she didn't just lose to trump, she lost to obama and trump. that's unique. not everybody can say that. and she doesn't have people saying stand down. maybe she's whispering that she feels she could beat him. remember, she thinks she did beat him. she thinks that facebook got in her way, russia got in her way. there's no personal responsibility. she can't move on. >> juan: jesse, i saw a poll -- did i miss something? >> dana: i think so. >> juan: i agree with you. cnn had a poll today, had biden spiking up now at 34%. warren at 19, sanders at 16.

that became talking were coming from stephen and put whe conservative radio hos weren't clicking on drudgert on what to say, t were clicking on breitbart. "republican national ceeeitbart, declares war on..." >> what arrepublicans getting majority leader?or being h i'm not sure. >> and with that, i want to pass the baton to senator jeff sessions... >> narrator: the insurgents rolled out their big gs for brat: sessions. >> that's worthy of patrick henry. m narrator: and steler's ally... >> if eric cantor is reelected, heaven forbid... >> talk-radio celebrity laura >> there's a good chance we'll have amnesty by the end of the year. >>nric cantor is definitely trouble ininis district. >> if da brat here can get a big turnout, he's going to, he' going to make difference... >> narrator: they'd thrown everything they could at cantor. >> eric ntor's district, let's send a real message... >> narrator: and on election night, the republican estaishmenwas in for a shock. >> history-making upset, house majority leader eric cantor lost... >> this is a seismic shift. narrator: cantor wased defe >> that t

meanwhile, the drudge report leading with that fox poll showing that, to millions of americans who catcheadlines from there including many conservative americans. other conservative lawyers, meanwhile, and knees athese are who are not just political or partisan folks, they have served in gop administrations. they understand how these scandals play out. some of them banding together to speak out. 16 calling for an expeditious impeachment probe, another saying there comes a tipping point where you look at this and say my country first. the party comes second. this is part of what donald trump is facing right now on a story that i don't have to tell you if you watch the news, a story that keeps taking twists and turns that no one saw coming, not rudy giuliani yesterday sitting in the trump hotel with people who are now arrested, and not donald trump watching senate republicans throw shade. he's throwing shade back to be sure that's what he does. today when you look at those arrests, when you look at those mug shots, you think who are these people. should they be siphoned off and protected f

you're seeing drudge report, fox news, other media organs that support the president turning on him in various ways and to various degrees. >> and i get different glimpses into the kind of grasp or lack of it that trump has on his new reality. i was told today that he understands the republicans in the senate are the only thing standing between him and removal from office, that he will be impeached. but that doesn't explain the ongoing conduct and the refusal to pull back in his decision in syria which has been universally critiqued. >> well, i think, nicolle, the people around the president see that as the reality, that he will probably be impeached by the house. the momentum's going that direction. it's unclear if trump himself recognizes that and truly understands the peril. this is someone who said when he campaigned for office that he could shoot somebody in broad daylight on fifth avenue and get away with it. and that's been his mindset in office. he knows that those republican senators are going to have his back no matter what he does because they've had it again and again and a

. >> two drudges sitting there ready. i talked to several people and they just don't seem to think it would be well-suited for this ground. steve: oh, man, so what happens to that guy? >> i think that was me. [laughter] brian: the guy you were talking to? >> oh, i think we were talking about my wash plant from last year. steve: which means? >> i moved to new ground this year. it discussed that it wouldn't do well in the new area with all the rock and stuff. ainsley: what do you think about seeing yourself on television now. you were in a band. you never mined before. you all talk. you end up getting in the bills and now you have this huge successful tv show, making a lot of money doing what you love. >> yeah. ainsley: what do you think about it when you watch your show? >> i mean, i think these guys can say we spend six months a year in the woods in the middle of nowhere mining for gold. brian: like this in the woods. >> everywhere. brian: how do you deal with the fame? do you have publicists? >> they hope we are not like

i think it was drudge had her up there in a witch's hat the other day.n on fox and said the chances are close to zero she is on a book tour. she is unplugged and she feels free to take shots at president trump. to even criticize tulsi gabbard. one of the democrats running for president. jedediah: we have to wrap. juan, i appreciate you being here. she is not the wicked witch but she is a terrible candidate. >> there you go, jedediah. jedediah: thanks as always, juan, for being here. sorry about your team. chicago is in a crisis. but the city's top cop skipping out on a meeting with president trump. our next guest is a retired police sergeant. he says that's the wrong move coming up. oh yeah. how do you kind of buy a new car? it's used. it's for mikey. you know he's gonna have girls in that car. yeah. he's gonna have two of them. great benefits for veterans from navy federal credit union... our members are the mission. but how do i know if i'm i'm getting a good deal? i tell truecar my zip and which car i want and truecar shows the range of prices people

for example, why does the pioneer mother always look like a drudge? all right.hat's with the sunbonnet? okay? i think you have to sort of take a look at that and link that to the stories also, the analysis of the object themselves. that's basically it because i think that's a large part of what the sculptures convey. now maybe in a longer version that's certainly part of it. but just as a reminder that a piece of art does deserve interpretation. >> absolutely. my first response is, in my longer work you can read all about it. buy my book next spring and you can read all about it. i'll give just one example of this. the first pioneer mother wasn't -- and i just barely touched on her in my presentation, i was in san francisco -- we had sacagawea as a pioneer mother, the first that was labeled as a pioneer mother in san francisco in 1915. at the explicitly social darwinist panama pacific international exposition, the artist who was brought in to produce this bronze monument as a pioneer mother, dressed her initially in a fringed buckskin gown and moccasins. and peo

take the drudge report, influential, famously historically conservative outlet, it has had more and morep h feeding to its somewhat conservative audience. and fox news, well, it says majority of americans back impeachment. "the washington post" has been reporting on fishers over that issue, how they cover the fact a lot of people and plurality of republicans back impeaching trump. quote, fox serves as creative inspiration for the president's political message, "the washington post" reports, and the power that fox news holds over republican voters is a crucial factor as the battle over impeachment continues. it is possible that donald trump is very aware of all of this, and the influence on not just all voters but these base voters. "new york times" reports this interesting development, donald trump's attorney general meeting with rupert murdoch at his home this very week, trump talking up fox news at his rally, keen awareness how this fits in as he battles, let me be clear, as he battles an existential fight to defend his presidency. who does he talk about? not members of congress or the