as chair of the dscc you did so much traveling. you know the rules. that's a pretty big chunk of money not to pay back. >> well, it's certainly, you know, the responsibility of myself, when it came to my attention to do so. if it came to my attention -- had it come to my attention before, i would have, in fact, done it before. when it came to my attention, i did what was right and i paid for it myself. >> reporter: you, of course, understand the perception that when you say when it came to your attention that you didn't pay for it until you got caught. >> well, that's not the case. the bottom line is, when it came to my attention, i paid for it. you know, there are a series of flights that were alleged. several of them were, you know, shown not to be the case. but after the election, when i got to look at the allegations and i did my own self-inspection, i ultimately came forward. as a matter of fact, one of those flights i self-reported. it wasn't even anybody raising it. >> reporter: one last question. can you just answer the allegation that has bee