as someone who looks at, you know, our business dsl's pretty closely, my sense is that without knowing those costs for human resources, et cetera, that's a big component. >> let me ask you this. if they're still handled, if there's no real essence of the cost as you said, does any comparison even stand up if the numbers are not the same? >> in my mind, no. >> okay. well, i yield back. and again, thank you all for your service to the country, and as you well know, the most important thing we can do is to make sure that every veteran is served properly. so thanks again for what you do. >> i thank the gentleman. will go to or call it now from michigan. >> thank you, gentlemen for coming and testifying today. i just had a couple of questions. mr. oros, are the people that work at the va, are they members of the association, to? did have the same access to the same prosthetics as the people on the outside? >> yes, they should. >> because one of the questions i have, i have done agitations and had people take care of it, and of my patient, and one of the things you brought up in your testimo