continuing to see progress in terms of the dta utilization, and its capital positioning relative to the rest of the group is best in class, and that's really what's going to drive a lot of the value for this name longer term. so it remains -- >> a buy rating on the stock? correct? >> a buy rating on the stock, we do. the most upside relative to the other universals we cover. no question this particular quarter, the results were disappointing. certainly on the trading side, and the expense management was also a bit challenged. >> right. >> at the same time, again, the focus is really going to be on what's driving long-termall that's excess capital generation. >> neil, address that, if you will. stephen, excuse me one second. you know, we did have disappointments. jpmorgan was a disappointment to the street in terms of some of the components. but in general, the lending issue and the air seems to have come out of the refinancing which a lot of these banks really helped to bolster their bottom line. >> absolutely. large double digit declines in refinancing and mortgage originations weak. r