participants sergey mikhailovich nekrasov, director of the all-russian pushkin museum mikhail and anastasia dubyninng married couple from yaroslavl well, myself, of course, ekaterina arkan thank you hello friends, this is a podcast life is wonderful and with you i am alexei varlamov , a writer and rector of a literary institute. we are today's guest, a wonderful prose writer, writer, playwright, publisher yevgeny anatolyevich popov, a legendary person who speaks. today we will be about vasily pavlovich aksyonov and his novel. crimea island greetings so evgeniy anatolyevich how are you? i understand that the author of a book about him, which you wrote with alexander, was really very friendly with vasily pavlovich kabakov and e. tell me, please , why axions yes, who was so famous for his wonderful, well, such touching, unusual, very tender works of the sixties, and star tickets for a commodity barrel of packaging. why in the seventies after all? it seems to me that his style is changing, he is turning to the genre of the novel. and writes. well, such things are more political more social, what happen