if you look at the music program that famously produced dudamel and many other interesting musicians,nd only now you're starting to see musicians around the world who are products of that system in venezuela. charlie: were they doing something in venezuela at the time that they are not doing in the u.s. today? alan: absolutely. it was a wide program with thousands of participants. but it has taken years for the musicians to end up around the world. if you're willing to plant the first seed and trusted that it won't sprout for years but that it will grow, that is the next frontier. hopefully, more and more people will actually do something about it. charlie: what do you think about mozart in the jungle? alan: well, there is one episode i am particularly fond of. charlie: it's on amazon. alan: it's interesting, because the book it's based on is something we were all aware of years ago, and it seems like kind of a soap opera look at the music world. some of it we recognize, and some of that we think, i have never seen that, i only wish i had. but now it is striking a chord. and i am happ