celebrity pastry chef duff goldman the author of the recent book "super good," he has all the sweet tipsard it's a great recipe that you can make with the kids and bread pudding is another form of custard, but a lot of people are intimidated and afraid of making custard, but you say it's super easy. >> it's super easy, yeah. the thing -- so a custard is basically a blend of eggs and sugar, milk and flavoring. because there's i think a lot of people are used to hearing, like, a plflan or, like, a crem brulee, which take a very gentle baking, but because of the pudding, and it's bound up if your bread, or in this case doughnuts, it's gentler to bake and harder to mess up. >> people usually use stale bread for this dessert, but as you call, you know, you're using doughnuts. can you use different flavor doughnuts? >> you can use any flavor you want. you could use, like, you know, chocolate cake doughnuts. i like using blueberry. it's one of my favorites. the thing about doughnuts is around the office there's pretty gross doughnuts that have been sitting there for a few days and nobody wants