dukakis?>> i think there are four things to do if we're serious about preserving and saving family farm. first it is to help those get through the credit crisis. i think the bill that has been supported out is a good one, i will support it. secondly, we need a balanced program of regional management and price support. but a program that benefits local farmers. thirdly, i think we have to aggressively explore the possibilities for new use of crops. gas gasohol. and finally we have to invest in rural development. of course a healthy raeg rahal economy is the most important single thing we can do for rural america, but in addition to that, our rural counties and small towns, farm communities are entitled to a brooder and more diverse and stronger economic base that will provide good jobs and new industries in addition to that healthy agricultural economy. can we do it? i'm sure we can. i've seen it happen in my own state and i'm sure we can do it all across america. >> thank you. mr. gore? >> tha

dukakis?>> i think i'm the only person at this table today who has to balance a budget, i've balanced nine budgets in three years. first, you have to make the hard choices on spending. and a number of us have already talked about it. you have to improve your economic performances if unemployment were just a drop, the federal guj et deaf sit would be $36 billion less. if you do those who things the interest will come down. finally, we have to raise revenue. i don't believe any responsible candidate can seriously say he'll guarantee he won't ask congress for the taxes that are not available to him. we are not collecting today. these are the irs figures, not mine. $110 billion a year in federal taxes owed that aren't being paid. i didn't say 110 million, i said 110 billion. i begin with a one-time amnesty, that's just the first step in a strong invisible investment program that encourages voluntary compliance. in massachusetts today, we've had great success with revenue enforcement, you get your

did dukakis want jackson to follow along behind him as the nominee?ad fought a hard-won campaign primarily of african-americans, along with gay student and liberal voters. jackson believed that as the presumptive nominee, dukakis was responsible for bringing the party together by reaching out to jackson and his constituency. in the end, after a series of 11 hours of controversy between the two campaigns, they appeared at the convention side by side in a show of unity. jackson had fought for a number of changes in the party's platform, some of which he won and others which were voted down by delegates in the convention. dukakis also agreed to give jackson and members of his staff positions in the fall campaign. but the perception by one group of voters was clear. opinion polls found that many white voters believed that dukakis had been too accommodating with jackson. looking back at dukakis' loss in 1988, the perception, quote, made it more difficult than it otherwise would have been to appeal to relatively conservative democrats, particular particular

you think of michael dukakis on a tank. it can be a tricky thing to have, to use a military facility as a backdrop. especially for a guy who, you know, had a number of deferments and hasn't really put much meat on the bone in terms of specifics. >> it can be a tricky thing if we apply what we know from past campaigns. if we've learned anything about donald trump, we should be very careful about applying anything we know from past campaigns. for george w. bush, remember, he flew onto the aircraft carrier. he was in the flight suit. he had the mission accomplished banner. after the fact when things went south in iraq, turned out that event was a debacle. former president bush has noted that and said the staff made a big mistake putting the banner up there. i was there the day governor dukakis got on the tank. he didn't want to wear the helmet. they told him he had to. for safety purposes. i was a print reporter at the time. sam donaldson to my right, chris wallace to my left, they started cackling. my first introduction to th

massachusetts governor michael dukakis.

you were a dukakis volunteer and you moved to new york after the '88 campaign? >> well, i had lived in new york and went out on the field, so you know the drill. you're in a different city every three days. and it took leaving and coming back to new york for me to realize how out of control the situation was. and i was living in the east village at the time and started talking to a group of homeless men who were living near cooper union. it was really -- impacted me hearing some of them were trying to clean up to get day labor and others were completely with profound mental illness. and my boyfriend at the time said, "if you're really serious, you should work at the coalition. it's the group really fighting for change." >> and it was a small group, then, right? like $1 million, $2 million budget or something? >> yeah, yeah, now we have a $12 million budget. we have 11 different direct service programs. you probably see our vans out every night. we feed 1,000 people in the street, sleep-away camp for homeless kids, lots of job training, different programs, and th

he served as lieutenant governor of massachusetts under governor dukakis. and then he came to the united states senate. 28 years of magnificent service. last chairman for the senate relations committee. but during that time, one pursued foreign relations rigorously. , i must say, in a nonpartisan way to bring results. kerry succeeded joe biden as the chairman of the committee i was either ranking but we lookedrman together. , toetary and myself and joe see if we could get a 16-0 vote from the foreign relations committee. the best strongest face of america to the rest of the world as opposed to a 9-7 situation, which somehow rather a treaty or significant agreement was eked out. this was still a very important principle area this is why, it is a genuine pleasure to be with secretary kerry today, to know who serve not man only in the senate, but was a candidate for resident of the united states in 2004 and barely lost by a few electoral votes. he came back and continued that service as chairman of the orman -- foreign relations committee. our secretary, as of

they have mentioned everybody except mike dukakis. there are no power brokers.pen anymore. no smoke-filled rooms because you can't smoke anymore. the notion, the dream of the professionals getting together and hammering out a compromise candidate. this were 1952, i'm with you. >> we will have to leave it there for tonight. ted devine come back and make your case for bernie sanders as the plan b, which is the sanders argument here. thank you for joining us. >>> coming up the -- of the massachusetts senate was a gangster, murderer and fbi informant and his story is told in the movie "black mask" with johnny depp starring as cooper. the director will join us. can a business have a mind? a subconscious. a knack for predicting the future. reflexes faster than the speed of thought. can a business have a spirit? can a business have a soul? can a business be...alive? at ally bank no branches equals great rates. it's a fact. kind of like shopping hungry equals overshopping. i want his bedroom to smell like he's away at boarding school. surround yourself with up to 6 hour

. >> it's not quite like the willie horton ad of 1988 used against michael dukakis. before we take a break, cnn in changing polling criteria letting carly fiorina on the stage as i will talk to her later, getting criticism for caving into pressure and not sticking with its original criteria. is that fair? >> first thought is what about the other candidates? shouldn't criteria apply evenly to everybody if we talk about the first female presidential candidate in the republican field, why do we cut corners for her and not everybody else? >> cnn's old criteria was wrong. i was interviewed for the style section on nickname of the donald. first to use it in 1989. it came from his then wife who was spoken broken english. how did carly fiorina get cnn to change the debate rules in her favor? we'll ask her that and more. when we come back, hillary clinton finally grants another tv interview to andrea mitchell as e-mail news turns even worse. >>> hillary clinton broke her tv silence about the e-mail mess on friday sitting down with msnbc's andrea mitchell. >> the first words t

he was up against big guys -- i remember mike dukakis was this little man who stood on a platform.llowed up. >> i don't think it was a matter of being diminutive in size, i think he didn't get an opportunity in the debate or his moment to shine. >> he also had moments of uncertainty in policy where he took one position and then another, and i think it was hard to galvanize. >> who else is as boring as scott walker? >> that was so mean. this is turning into the meanest table ever. >> i want to go home. >> right? >> i need a drink. plaque psoriasis... ...isn't it time to let the... ...real you shine... ...through? introducing otezla, apremilast. otezla is not an injection, or a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. some people who took otezla saw 75% clearer skin after 4 months. and otezla's prescribing information has no requirement for routine lab monitoring. don't take otezla if you are allergic to any of its ingredients. otezla may increase... ...the risk of depression. tell your doctor if you have a history of depression... ...or suicidal thoughts, or if t

first of all, physically in terms of stature, he reminds me of michael dukakis. tiny guy surrounded by giants. how about me, how about me? i won wisconsin. i once did -- sit down. >> geez. >> charlie, juf been a strong supporter of donald trump. how do you feel he did tonight? >> you know, he's sort of beenr. he never steps out of character. but i do think jeb bush probably had the most energetic moment i've seen of the campaign. >> by the way -- i don't mean to interrupt. but when trump said to jeb, oh, more energy tonight. i was laughing. it was funny. >> it was brutal. it was devastating. he's been winning that way all along. but when jeb came back to defend his brother, i thought that that was sort of -- definitely the high water mark for jeb, but i also thought it was a very risky strategy on the part of trump to then full-on go and attack george w. bush and the war in iraq and in a very pointed way. and i wonder if that -- i wonder how that winds up playing in the polls. >> is that going to be the moment that people focus on? i think it's going to be the ba

racialized fear mongering is drawing comparisons to the infamous willie horton ad run against michael dukakis, perhaps the most notorious attack ad in the history of politics, created by a group supporting none other than george bush, father. no surprises, continues to astound how quickly and transparently the rest of the candidates are falling over themselves to keep up with him. we saw it with jeb bush's partial, tentative, occasional embrace of the term anchor baby and now this weekend with scott walker talking about building a wall on the border with canada. >> we don't talk about a northern border where if this is about securing the border from potentially terrorists coming over. we want to build a wall north of the border? >> that was brought up in new hampshire. that was a legitimate issue to look at. >> someone on twitter commenting i want trump to start claiming things like he's eaten 1,000 bees in his life so we can see scott walker try to eat bees. and chris christie this weekend comparing foreign visitors to fedex packages. >> at any moment fedex can tell you where that package is

political science at usc, susan estridge, fox news contributor who was the campaign manager for michael dukakis' presidential campaign in 1988. back then, in '88, you had 22 debates. now they're just going to have six. >> i know. >> susan, 22 debates, what was it like? do you think six are enough? >> 22 degates were horrible. look, the problem with these debates, okay, is that you put a bunch of candidates up there, look at what's been happening with the republicans and while i like seeing carly fiorina as a woman, as strong woman, not my candidate getting some mileage out of the debates, the truth is 22 debates made all of the candidates seem smaller and smaller and smaller. and i've been on both sides of this. whoever is the frontrunner doesn't want debates. whoever is not the frontrunner walks around with chickens or their supporters carry chickens and say we need more debates 'cause they want a chance to, you know, ruffle the feathers, as it were, of the frontrunner. >> then you got where they have a debate themselves with a chair on the stage. >> ronald reagan did it well. >> others man. r

form political xhen comment and white house reagan commentator, and also jeffrey lurie who was the dukakismanager in 2008 as well. and now, jeffrey, take me back to that time, too, in the reagan administration, because reagan was famous, and star, and very much like donald trump is, and how much debate prep do you believe that donald trump might be doing as compared to ronald reagan as we head to the ronald reagan library tomorrow? >> well, here is the debate story of ronald reagan, and in 1994, and he had two debates with walter mondale, and the first one, he prepped like crazy, and they had all of the statistics like, your debate did this, that, and this and that, and so terrible that people asked if he was too old to be president. and roger ails advised him, and mrs. reagan was furious, and just go be yourself and stick to the principles and the messages, and so that is what he did, and so reagan came up with the line when he was asked about the age, and he said, well, i won't make my opponent's inexperience and youth an issue in the campaign. >> and it is magical moment in history. yes

arthel will with susan estridge who is a usc professor of law and former campaign manager for michael dukakis. >> thanks. >>> police in arizona arresting a person of interest after a series of sniper shootings on a major highway. but investigators say the 19-year-old man is not the prime suspect. he's been booked into jail on an unrelated marijuana possession charge. officials say at least 11 shootings have been confirmed since late august. will carr ask live in phoenix with the latest. will? >> reporter: as we're talking, police are investigating what appears to potentially be another car that's opinion shot. we just got this video in. the driver was on i 10 about nine miles west of where i'm standing right now since he was driving to work when he heard a loud pop and that's when his passenger side window shattered. again, police are investigating this. they have not confirmed that this is a new shooting. but if it does indeed turn out to be, it would be the 12th car to be shot in the past 13 days. >> we don't want folks to be in fear. we want them to channel that fear into being good witnes

willy horton kind of ad against jeb bush, the same kind of ad that his father used against michael dukakis. it's brilliant. you feel like he's playing on that, that we know that and we'll enjoy it a little bit more because of it. but i will say that i actually thought that jeb bush's ad was pretty good. i thought that if people really get his closeness with the clintons, his being pro choice saying over and over i'm pro choice, that could hurt him. but trump is right. nothing has hurt him so far. the people who have taken swings at him, if anything they've gone down in the polls. bush has been sinking. i don't know that you can win an insult contest with donald trump. >> since he jumped into the race, being that trump has focused a good portion of his attacks on jeb bush. take a look. >> i'm not worried because how can bush be in first place? this guy can't negotiate his bay out of a paper bag. and the poll just came out, and i'm tied with jeb bush. and i said, oh, that's too bad. how can i be tied with this guy? he's terrible. he's terrible. remember this, jeb bush will never take us to t

1998, when dana carvey, as george bush, doing a terrible job of debate, and john lovett as michael dukakis saying, i can't believe i'm losing to this guy. you get the image of romney sitting around going, what is happening? why am i not in this race? >> but let's remember, the primary reason donald trump is where he is, and i remember everyone that it's august, okay? everybody calm down. >> september, charlie. it's september! >> the reason he is where he is is because as you pointed out in your introduction, he makes haymakers at very humorless people, like jeb bush. is there a more humorless person this side of the faces on mt. rushmore than mitt romney. do you understand what a target-rich environment for somebody like donald trump mitt romney would be? my goodness. >> this is an excellent point. we could only imagine the fun trump would be having with romney, were he in it. but what's striking to me about the way jeb bush has decided to go after trump is, a, it's almost identical to how rand paul went after him. and what it stresses is orthodoxy. this guys likes hillary clinton and he d

i keep thinking of that "snl" skit with lovitz playing dukakis. and being like, and i've got to think that perry and jindal in particular, i don't like bobby jindal's politics. i don't think he's been a good governor of louisiana. but he governored a state. he's a road scholar. if you sat down to him and talked about medicaid reimbursement rates in the state of louisiana, he could tell you what the rates are. it has to drive them insane to watch this. right? >> well, first of all for bobby jindal, it has to be driving him nuts. the other thing is, you go to his website, he has reams and reams of papers on these topics. i don't agree with what they say, but they exist. >> yes. that's right. >> i can imagine this is probably particularly brutal for him. but i think this was a calculated strategy. no one's been talking about bobby jindal. most people don't know he's still running at this point. >> no. >> for him to get into a back and forth with donald trump. will actually help bobby jindal. he'll get into the news cycle. >> that has been tried befor

bush edged out michael dukakis with women in exit polls. since then, women have gone the other way, choosing democrats, it is an advantage hillary clinton and her supporters are pressing. >> we are all here to kick off women for hillary. >> reporter: but a new poll shows hillary does not have a lock on women's votes. just 42% of democratic-leaning women say they support her, a sharp drop from 71% in july. enter carly fiorina, stage right. >> if you're ready for a women president, and we know a lot of you are, how about one who is competent and honest and can do the job? >> reporter: fiorina has pushed back at clinton, and pushed out a conservative definition of feminism, about jobs and security. that brings us here to tomorrow's presidential debate, where of course fiorina will be the only woman on the debate stage. that concerns some republicans. how do they get more women to run for president? many say by encouraging more women to run for other offices: state, local, congress. but that is a problem for republicans too. it was hard to miss

day and able, you don't have to spend money and they did with the willie horton ad against michael dukakisein. all you have to do is an instagram. it doesn't cost anything. >> trump is very good at making things go viral. it was reminiscent of the willie horton ad, painting a broad brush about illegal immigrants in this country. saying this is a systemic problem that needs to be addressed. and really hitting jeb bush hard on this. i thought the response from jeb today maybe not as vitriolic as the initial instagram video. remember a month ago he didn't even want to talk about trump. he said he was done talking about trump. he said it was the other candidates' problems. now he's clearly engaging so the dynamics of the race have obviously changed. >> chris cillizza, jeb's campaign or super back put out their own video trying to take down trump by putting out that he did used to be democrat. >> right, andrea. and look,off seen lots and lots and lolths and lots of this. the thing that i wonder about, rick perry attacks donald trump looks where he ends up. rand paul attacks donald trump, look w

and it reminded me of what happened to michael dukakis when he was asked what he would think of the death penalty if his wife was raped and killed. it was really kind of detached. if she wants to make connections with people outside of coffee shops, she has to show a little more heat and passion about day-to-day stuff, not just policy, when it comes to these interviews on television. >> you asked hillary about joe biden and his potential to get into the race. >> are there real differences, big differences between you and joe biden on domestic or foreign policy? >> you know, i'm not going to address any of the political questions around my friend, joe biden. he has to make a really difficult decision. you can see him struggling with it. and i just wish the best for him and his family. if he continues as vice president, he'll continue to serve with great distinction. if he gets into this race, there will be plenty of time to get into the debate and the back and forth, but i think everybody should give him the space and respect that he deserves to make what is a very difficult choice for him

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i mean, michael dukakis was from brookline, massachusetts, where the annual town meeting would debate whether to say the american pledge. bill clinton, the most successful democratic politician could voice american exceptionalism things, and with his adeptness could do so while apologizing for america's past misdeeds from slavery to the overthrow of queen lili oaklawn he, so the monarchy america regrets it overthrew. jim pearson' s video at the beginning of this affected me emotionally more than i would have thought. i was 18 years old, 19-years-old when kennedy was assassinated. a freshman at harvard. and it was, and i was an admirer of kennedy in the 1960 election. mitt romney was also a students. we had a straw poll in our election. the vote was 92% nixon, 8% kennedy. it is more fun to be with the 8% than with the 92% on any issue in my current position of the press corps has given me that pleasure. he reminds us what a shock this was. i think it was a shock that upset a narrative of american history that was american exceptionalism. we have founding fathers. most countries don't h

he served as lieutenant governor of massachusetts under governor dukakis. and then he came to the united states senate. 28 years of magnificent service. last chairman for the senate relations committee. but during that time, one pursued foreign relations rigorously. , i must say, in a nonpartisan way to bring results. kerry succeeded joe biden as the chairman of the committee i was either ranking but we lookedrman together. , toetary and myself and joe see if we could get a 16-0 vote from the foreign relations committee. the best strongest face of america to the rest of the world as opposed to a 9-7 situation, which somehow rather a treaty or significant agreement was eked out. this was still a very important principle area this is why, it is a genuine pleasure to be with secretary kerry today, to know who serve not man only in the senate, but was a candidate for resident of the united states in 2004 and barely lost by a few electoral votes. he came back and continued that service as chairman of the orman -- foreign relations committee. our secretary, as of

he served as the lieutenant governor of massachusetts under governor dukakis. and then he came to the united states senate. service.of magnificent the last four of them on the senate relations committee. throughout that time, one pursuit of foreign relations was vigorous. working in a nonpartisan way to bring about results, secretary biden as theed joe chairman of the committee. i was ranking member or the chairman, whether republicans were in control or not. we worked together, secretary kerry and myself, to see we could get a 15 to zero vote from the foreign relations committee. us face inong america. this was a genuine pleasure, to be with secretary kerry today, to note that this is a man that not only served in the senate but was a candidate for president of the united states 2004. barely lost by a few electoral vote. he came back in continue that service. it is a genuine honor and personal privilege to introduce to you today my friend secretary john evans carry. -- secretary john evans kerry. [applause] sec. kerry: thank you so much for that generous intro

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bush ran against michael dukakis? these ones suggested a similar tone. the bush campaign responding by saying, first of all, you're taking the governor's comments out of context. second, if you're questioning his crime record, this was a tough on crime two-term governor. >> latest polling shows bush now in sixth place in iowa. he comes in at just 5%. look at that. that's a huge drop. that's well behind trump and carson. at the same time, 51% of republican voters there view bush unfavably. what does he need to do to improve the standing? >> he should probably move to the state, probably. he's not going to do that. new hampshire on the top of the must-win list for him. this reflects concern among hard-core republican voters that bush is perhaps someone that is either not conservative enough or just simply an example, an embodiment of that of-washington or politician model they don't want anymore. the fact you see trump, carson, carly fiorina, essentially holding a majority of support among iowa republicans and in other polls in other places, really suggest

. >> the number we see at eight or dukakis under 200,000 as they sat on what we've seen in previous augustk at the past five and they were on average moved up 79,000 jobs. last august the initial number 102,000 was revised to 213. >> i'm sure you've been holding people's hands the last couple weeks was so much volatility. if you see a number below expectations, had allocated money? >> we been talking to clients about the issue always to get them prepared for what is about to happen. we are a little below a 212 because of the claims data. there's a bigger story. deutsche bank reports over the last 27 years, this number has missed under 21 times by an average of 50,000 jobs. but the consensus at 220 that suggest the number would come in 170, 180. from a fans did we know historically over the course of the next two jobs report, a look at revised away. we will end up at two december, because the act cavalierly enough to say the number missed by 50 but we know it's revised away. we hiked anyways? >> why would they put so much in the number? >> this is the last big number the federal get on sept

. >>> a man who understands presidential politics very well, michael dukakis.ith you. >> let's take a look at the recent snapshot of your party. hillary is slipping. she had a big lead over the bernie sanders. not so much anymore. he's pulled even or ahead with her in iowa. he's got the growing lead in new hampshire. and most importantly joe biden seems to represent a viable alternative, though he has shown no real indication of getting in the race. your take, governor? >> first, kitty and i are with hillary. we like her, we think she'd be a great president. these polls are virtually worthless at this stage of the game. early polls mean nothing. i remember even in my race i was supposed to be 17 points ahead of george h.w. bush. i was never 17 points ahead. it's a long race. it's a lot of work out there. the question of who's organized and what are they doing and how they're doing it, it's going to be a long time before we really know who the front runners are. >> i understand. i grew up in the game and watching you and understanding the vagaries of polling. th

dukakis was running because when someone is talking to you you rook at them.and he looked paralyzed with fear by that. and that really hurt him. >> there is something to be said tonight. donald trump when he is getting attacked by his fellow candidates doesn't look liking at them. so. >> we'll be looking forward to being you tonight and talking about this tomorrow as well. be sure to tune in tonight for the first of two debates. beginning at 6:00 p.m. eastern here. and the main event with the 11 candidates starts at 8:00 p.m. eastern. it is goin' to be a great night. the good stuff, next. i've spoken of the shining city all my political life. god blessed and teeming with people of all kinds... living in harmony and peace. trump: they're bringing crime. they're rapists. if i am elected they're... going to be out of there day one. reporter: do you think birth right citizenship should be ended? walker: yeah, absolutely. cruz: i think we should end birth right citizenship trump: i will build a great, great wall... in my mind it was a tall proud city built of... ro

. >> jon lovitz and michael dukakis on saturday night live.ok and they say in the end, their belief is it won't be trump, it won't be carson. and that means hope springs eternal for the 15 other people. >> yet it's only trump, carson, and jeb that are beating or tying hillary right now. where is the argument? where do they go? all right, still ahead, need further proof that it's the year of anti-politician? well, willie sits down with a truck driver who could be the next governor of mississippi. >> a long shot, but he's in it. >> in it to win it. keep it here on "morning joe." ♪ [ girl ] my mom, she makes underwater fans that are powered by the moon. ♪ [ birds squawking ] my mom makes airplane engines that can talk. [ birds squawking ] ♪ my mom makes hospitals you can hold in your hand. ♪ my mom can print amazing things right from her computer. [ whirring ] [ train whistle blows ] my mom makes trains that are friends with trees. [ train whistle blows ] ♪ my mom works at ge. ♪ my mom works at ge. so you're a small business expert from at&t? yea