of course they can. >> bush and dukakis on crime.death penalty for first-degree murderers. dukakis not only opposes the death penalty, he allowed first-degree murderers to have weekend passes from prison. one was willie horton, who murdered a boy in a robbery, stabbing him 19 times. despite a life sentence, horton received ten weekend passes from prison. horton fled, kidnapped a young couple, stabbing the man and repeatedly raping his girlfriend. weekend prison passes, dukakis on crime. >> the willie horton ad comes not from the official republican campaign, but from pro bush activists. >> willie horton was a black american, and i think one of the reasons the campaign did not want to associate itself directly with the ad is that they felt that people might interpret it as being a racist ad. >> weekend prison passes, dukakis on crime. >> but lee atwater smells fresh blood. >> lee knew that it was powerful. lee knew that it fit a liberal stereotype that would make a larger point about dukakis. >> atwater wants to put willie horton fron

weekend prison passes: dukakis on crime. - the implication was, dukakis believed in letting people liketreet. but it was also, we knew, a dog whistle for--for racism. - and i think at one point, atwater was said to have remarked, "we're going to make willie horton dukakis's running mate." - when we asked for the source of the horton claims, what we found was that the-- the "eagle-tribune's" pulitzer prize-winning story was the source. that source had other instances of people jump-- jumping furlough who were white. they committed more horrific crimes than horton did. why select the african-american? and why select that particular narrative in which there is a rape as part of the story? - there is no more powerful symbol of racial hatred, still, than the black man who rapes the white woman. so when that's your iconic figure, it's an iconic figure that has been tied to decades of lynchings of innocent men. - as governor, michael dukakis vetoed mandatory sentences for drug dealers. he vetoed the death penalty. - i mean, the american people didn't react to this because it was willie horton,

>> despite all of it, bush hadn't knocked dukakis out.ntered the final presidential debate, bush was only slightly ahead in the polls. >> the first question goes to governor dukakis. >> right out of the gate, bernie shaw from cnn threw a grenade. >> governor, if kitty dukakis were raped and murdered, would you favor an irrevocable death penalty for the killer? >> no, i don't. and i think you know that i opposed the death penalty all of my life. i don't see any evidence that it is a deterrent. i think there are better ask more effective ways to deal with violent crime. >> the candidate treated it like a policy question. not a personal one. >> you didn't seem to have a natural human impulse. >> i've been asked that question about thousand times. unfortunately i answered it like i was asked about a thousand times. the answer is i would like the kill the guy. i don't think there's any doubt about how i feel about my wife. >> finally, at the end of the campaign, he started to punch back. >> friends, this is garbage. this is political garbage.

bush or dukakis. and what i'm seeing as i remember it as a young, as a young man but also going back and looking at it is a spring -- the primary season and then the spring and summer and fall as every day both campaigns were trying to tell news stories. so i call it the age of optics. >> as you made clear, it's not just the pictures, it's the sound. there are several aspects of the sound. one thing i loved reading about was something i remembered from your days with president clinton was music. >> yeah. >> you used to love the music from the magnificent seven. that was a staple in western venues especially. how do you go about picking the right kind of music for a candidate? >> well, and i learned some of this from mort too. and i remember, i think it was in '86 mitchell, a western governors' to association event, where someone decided let's have all the governors of the western states walk together toward the event, let's position press just so, so they can see them walking. you can actually capture

and michael dukakis in 1988. (bernard shaw, moderator) dukakis were raped and murdered, would you favor an irrevocable death penalty for the killer? (former gov. michael dukakis) i don't see any evidence that it's a deterrent, and i think there are better and more effective ways to deal with violent crime. both responses, considered major missteps. neither would win in november. a well-placed laugh line, however, can win over an audience, maybe even an electorate. like ronald reagan on concerns about his age, during his 1984 re-election bid, at age 73. (president r reagan) i will not make age an issue of this campaign. i am not going to exploit, for political purposes, my opponent's youth and inexperience. there's no consitutional mandatethat says the presidential and vice presidential candidates have to debate one another. but the audiences are often too great to pass up. during the last election cycle in 2o12, 67-point-2 million viewers watched the first debate between president obama and mitt romney. after mon

michael dukakis' answer on kitty was attacked. it's often when you see something personal underneath the facade that they present to the public that is the most memorable and those can be scripted or unscripted but it often turns more on those kind of personal revelations than the policy chops. >> i wonder how they will address one another. i will pose this to you, david. will hillary call donald trump donald? will donald trump call hillary clinton hillary, secretary clinton, mrs. clinton, what? >> i would imagine they will walk out and be very gracious in the beginning and high toned in their early conversation and fairly quickly one of them will call the other by their first name, get on the first name basis. they have been on a first name basis, of course, in the past. i think that's where they will go. but i do think, i want to come back to this preparation point. there's danger of being overprepared. that's what happened to ronald reagan his first debate when he ran for re-election. he was so stuffed with facts he could barel

and michael dukakis in 1988. (bernard shaw, moderator) governor, if kitty dukakis were raped and murdered, would you favor an irrevocable death penalty for the killer?// (former gov. michael dukakis) i don't see any evidence that it's a deterrent, and i think there are better and more effective ways to deal with violent crime. both responses, considered major missteps. neither would win in november. a well-placed laug audience, maybe even an electorate. like ronald reagan on concerns about his age, during his 1984 re-election bid, at age 73. (president ronald reagan) i will not make age an issue of this campaign. i am not going to exploit, for political purposes, my opponent's youth and inexperience. there's no consitutional mandatethat says the presidential and vice presidential candidates have to debate one another. but the audiences are during the last election cycle in 2o12, 67-point-2 million viewers watched the first debate between president obama and mitt romney. after months of sound bites on the stump, i

. >> the first question goes to governor dukakis you have to minister respond. governor, if kitty dukakis were raped and murdered, would lead you favor the irrevocable death penalty of the killer quake. >> you know, that i oppose the death penalty all my life and items see any evidence as a deterrent there are more better effective ways and we have done so in my own state and this is the reason why we have the biggest drop in crime bill list murder rate. >> >> has the national debt personally affected each of your lives if hasn't how can you honestly find a cure for the economic problems for the common people if you have no experience of what is ailing them? imitating the national debt affects everybody. obviously a has a lot to do with interest rates. >> on a personal basis has it affected you personally quick. >> i was like to know if governor bush will support me in the main bill that is pending? . . ... >> john, ten days ago you said -- >> are you afraid i couldn't hear him? i am just determined to get you to talk to him. >> all the applicants were all men a

and michael dukakis in 1988. (bernard shaw, moderator) governor, if kitty and murdered, would you favor an irrevocable death penalty for the killer? (former gov. michael dukakis) i don't see any evidence that it's a deterrent, and i think there are better and more effective ways to deal with violent crime. both responses, considered major missteps. neither would win in november. a well-placed laugh line, however, can win over an audience, maybe even an electorate. like ronald reagan on concerns about his age, during his 1984 re-election bid, at age 73. (president ronald reagan) i will not make age an issue of this campaign. i am not going to exploit, for political purposes, my opponent's youth and inexperience. there's no consitutional mandatethat says the presidential and vice presidential candidates have to debate one another. but the audiences are often too great to pass up. during the last election cycle in 2o12, 67-point-2 million viewers watched the first debate between president obama and mitt romney. afte

and michael dukakis and al gore both lost after poor debate performances. the vice presidential candidates will debate next. on tuesday, october 4th: mike pence and tim kaine will face off at longwood university in farmville, virginia. the second presidential debate - takes place october 9th - at washington university in saint louis. the university of nevada in las vegas will host clinton and trump's final debate - october 19th. 9news will host a state level debate... democratic incumbent michael bennet and republican challenger, darryl glenn - will debate live on 9news on october 11th. it's an hour - moderated by political reporter brandon rittiman -- and 9news anchor kyle clark. it starts at 7 - and can be seen on channel 20 and on 9news dot com. you might have already seen people around in city parks and public places... trying to get everyone registered to vote for either candidate. today is national voter registration day. and on college campuses across our state.... there will be a push to register young voters. new era colorado is holding events on t

i hope that happens tonight. >> michael dukakis, 1988 democratic candidate.king the time. >> a pleasure. >> how much does the debate matter? our poll said the debates will have a big impact. 34%. one out of every three voters saying the debates are very important in deciding how they vote. they will talk about that coming up. announcer: todd's a great guy. i mean, look at him. what. a. sweetheart. attaboy. wait, todd, what are you doing? how totally selfish and un-toddlike of you. come on, todd, come on, man. and these are the lungs. (boy) sorry. (dad) don't worry about it. (vo) at our house, we need things that are built to last. that's why we got a subaru. (avo) love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. >>> when the world trade center came down, i saw something that noplace on earth could have handled more beautifully, more humanely than new york. we rebuilt downtown manhattan and everybody in the world watched and everybody in the world loved new york and new yorkers and i have to you that was a very insulting statement that ted made. >> a lot of people th

we want to talk about what she or he need to do to avoid this sort of dukakis moment. let's play it and then discuss. >> governor, if kitty dukakis were raped and murdered, would you favor an irrevocable death penalty for the killer? >> no, i don't, bernard. i think you know that i've opposed the death penalty during all of my life. i don't see any evidence that it's a deterrent. and i think there are better and more effective ways to deal with violent crime. we've done so in my own state. it's one of the reasons why we have had the biggest drop in crime of any street state in america, why we have the lowest murder rate of any industrial state in america. >> the voters didn't go for that. a serious question, but emotion does matter. what didn't they like? >> it played into the narrative that he was an automoton, that he was a policy wonk, that he had no heart, no feeling. if he had said, i would strangle the man with my bare hands if i could get my hands on him -- that's why i shouldn't be making this decision because i feel so emotional about it. he had to become live

kitty dukakis, dukakis's wife what he would do if she were raped and killed?s significant moments standing out in history. harris: i could see donald trump to sandra's point having gumption to look right at hillary clinton. >> he has to be very careful though because he is a large man. she is a small woman. she is going to look for the being picked on point. he needs to observe iron discipline to make sure that doesn't happen. >> also can be unsaid. go back to the john f. kennedy and nixon debate, his appearance, the sweating, uncomfortableness. for hillary clinton whose health has been brought into question by just the video itself on 9/11, that is something that voters are going to be looking at. meghan: i'm excited about it. you can come to my house. it will be fun at least watching with him. harris: jd and popcorn. meghan: donald trump, a top republican said he should be held as enemy combatant so we get as much info out of him as possible. is this a good idea? is that ice-t? nope, it's lemonade. is that ice-t? lemonade. ice-t? what's with these people, ma

governor, if kitty dukakis were raped and murdered, would you favor an irrescue cal death penalty for the killer. >> no, i don't. i think you know i've poeps -- opposed the death penalty. >> finally, presidential candidates get their facts wrong in a big debate. they have grot trouble. >> mr. president, i would like to explore our relationship with the russians. our allies in france and italy are now flirting with communism. there is no soviet domination of eastern europe and there never will be under a ford administration. >> that blunder by president ford gave the election to jimmy carter in 1976. back to tonight, the poll is pretty much a dead heat going into the big show. it's kind of shocking because many pundits believe hirveth would easily roll over donald trump. if mr. trump stands his ground tonight, looks presidential, senator clinton could be in major trouble. i was in colorado over the week and polls there say the race is tied. if colorado goes with trump, he's the next president. same things in states like pennsylvania and wisconsin. on friday, we told you that north caro

bush was able to crush michael dukakis. the willie horton ad. that has been the story in campaigns.me up with a devastating ad like that, you can get an enormous political benefit from it. that takes us to the most important number of the day. that number is five. what does five have to do with it? if you add up the spending from the trump campaign and the pro trump super pacs and the clinton campaign and the super pacs, it is a five to one advantage for hillary clinton's side. we have never in the modern television age seen this disparity. usually it's pretty even. if you look at it right now, this is the amount of money clinton has spent on the tv adds and about $120 million less from the trump side of things. a little bit more even in 2012. romney's side outspending obama's side, but a five to one difference. if you believe the old rules apply about how if you have more on the airwaves, you should be killing your opponent in the polls, that doesn't explain what it happening. donald trump's side is barely making a dent when it comes to the tv ad wars. look at the swing states he i

you played the dukakis thing about him answering and he later said that the reason he answered it thatause he heard the question a thousand times. so i think that's her challenge. >> the mistrust of her is remarkable. and we see it in the polling. but after you talk to voters it's incredible the degree to which people believe she's dishonest. and to that end i think jeff is right. you can't litigate the nature of emails. you have to show contrition. and say i understand why folks have concerns about me and move on and make it about him. >> you do get a new look in these debates. a very prominent democratic strategist who is close to the clintons he was joking but not really when i asked her what's her biggest priority and he said i'll take likeable enough. that was a line obama used. you do get a fresh look when you're on the debate stage because you're at that key moment. >> this is a really interesting choice for her. does she want to radically remake her image, be warm and fuzzy, convince america for the first time ever is this wonderful likeable person, or does she double down on h

like reagan's, there you go again, geniality, and michael dukakis' bloodless remark on kiddie dukakisto the soul, debates are. they say. >> just like your eyes, john. >> the eyes. >> great to see everybody. 9:00 short -- silence. nine short hours left is all the candidates have to perfect every one liner, eye roll, sigh, look at their watch, head shake, nod. you count it. what are the candidates doing during this crunch time? that's coming up. is that ice-t? nope, it's lemonade. is that ice-t? lemonade. ice-t? what's with these people, man? lemonade, read the sign. lemonade. read it. ok. delicious. ice-t at a lemonade stand? surprising. what's not surprising? how much money marin saved by switching to geico. yo, ice-t! it's lemonade, man! fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. >>> welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king. thanks for sharing time with us on this important day. donald trump and hillary clinton square off here tonight at hofstra university. at 43 days out this race is extremely tight. one new national poll out today shows trump up two points in a four

let's play that and discuss. >> governor, if kitty dukakis were raped and murdered, would you favor an penalty for the killer. >> no i don't bernard, i've opposed the death penalty all of my life. don't see evidence it's deterrent, better and more effective ways to deal with violent crime. we've done it in my state and one of the reasons had the biggest drop in crime in any industrial state in america and lowest murder rate. >> it's a serious question but emotion matters. >> played into the narrative he was a automaton, policy wonk. had no heart or feeling. if said i would strangle the man with bare hands and that's why i shouldn't make the decision. he had to become live and real. key on monday night is both of them can't play into the narratives, they have to break them. >> somewhat we're talking about style here. douglas, and maybe hillary clinton is the one who has to come off as not so controlled and a little more emotional and relaxed. am i wrong with that. >> absolutelessly right. she has to be authentic. we have to feel wee like and know her and more importantly she seems to ha

i got in right after governor dukakis. the state budget was too big.so bankrupt and everyone said so, including governor dukakis' administration finance secretary. i knew i wanted to set the fiscal house in order, erase the reputation of tax-achusetts, cut the state payroll and budget, and i did that. that was a big success. we rewarded after doing that on the re-elect. this is the third one where i know exactly what i would want to do if i get in and it's exactly the same thing i did as governor of massachusetts and gary johnson did as governor of new mexico, reverse the fiscal policy of the state, set the fiscal house in order, cut spending, cut taxes and get us back on the straight path. what strengthens the economy indirectly, because if small and medium businesses which is where most of the new jobs are, if they know taxes are only going in one direction, down, they don't need big tax cuts. all they need is that security and they will build the plant next door and hire the nine or 23 or 41 workers and that makes the unemployment rate go down. >> y

. >> is this the opposite of dukakis, you always say with dukakis, if you'd only answer them, schrummy and the rest of them, if you'd only answered the charge, you would have won. now we're saying to the guy, don't answer the charge. >> and wait a second. if he had not kept going on this, the chances that we would be talking about alicia machado today, not great. and if the clinton campaign had been able to script this, they could not have scripted it any better. >> hillary who deserves credit for taking this guy down a rabbit hole. >> but this did not happen in a vacuum. this happens in a context of years and years, including on this campaign, of donald trump making misogynistic remarks, and it started out, what about her looks? what about her looks? what's wrong with hillary clinton's looks? he did it with carly fiorina and -- >> i -- no -- he's misquoting, he didn't say look. he said looks. >> but you know, this is the big issue. and he knows, or he should know, or you people should -- it is a big issue! >> we've got to get this guy -- you've got a couple of minutes to respond. >> w

democrat michael dukakis had a great first debate against president george h.w. bush.bacle. >> governor, if kitty dukakis were raped and murdered, would you favor an irrevocable death penalty for the killer? >> no, i don't, bernard, and i think you know i have opposed the death penalty during all of my life. i don't see any evidence that it is a deterrent. >> that ante septic policy response instead of a human one led that he was weak. >> i have a better temperament than she does. >> reinforcing trump's trouble spots like his temperament is what trump sources say they fear their candidate did with repeated moments like this. >> i have a feeling by the end tv evening i will be blamed for everything. >> why not. >> dana bash, cnn new york. >> is a former presidential speech writer for jimmie carter, correspondent. we spoke before the debate. he james joins me again tonight. jim, obviously there were no incumbents on the stage, but secretary clinton had a much more political track record than donald trump. does that make it harder for him to make up ground in the next two

and dukakis had a big lead regular member bush got them at the at the conventions of my senses she is and if you listen to what she is saying it's not meaningful. i think to a certain extent she is not exciting anybody and he basically is. lou: what's interesting about this bringing the press supporter new larger aircraft to accommodate the media, the questions are how is everything and love loveland? i mean how do you deal with the conspiracy discussion about what's causing you to go into a form in a coughing fit quite this is the national media right now that's embarrassing itself. >> you know before she started doing this there was a clock as to how long she had a press conference, 272 days. this is now being counted. lou: by the way the count goes on. >> the mainstream media was not pushing her to have a press conference so much as others because they have this access. lou: everyone is tired of being lied to don't you think wax. >> they get their questions answered by somebody off the record. lou: they get their questions answered? there is no answer. at every turn. you write a co

didn't they do the same thing in 1988 with dukakis, just subtlety? >> they said he was seeing a shrink. >> it's the power of the suggestion. they even had reagan say, you know, an invalid, right? it helped create the impression and that was -- >> it didn't create pneumonia, though. that's gratuitous or serendipity on their part. sunday donald trump was characteristically -- uncharacteristically silent about secretary clinton's abrupt departure from the 9/11 ceremonies. this morning he called in to fox news and cnbc and addressed the incident. here is what he said. >> i hope she gets well soon. i don't know what's going on. i'm, like you, i see what i see. the coughing fit was a week ago, so i assumed that was pneumonia, also. i would think it would have been. so thing's going on. but i just hope she gets well and gets back on the trail. and we'll be seeing her at the debate. it's interesting because they say pneumonia friday, but she was coughing very badly a week ago and even before that, if you remember. this wasn't the first time. so it's very int

i can't remember if dukakis had any step or not. >> george h.w.were going to just be at their podiums at the beginning, and they came out and he shook hands. h.w. did, and he held on to dukakis's hand fire long time, and some speculated that was because he wanted the height difference on that image to be evident, and it was. >> there you go. height matters. >> there you go. we're all going to be watching ton. bret is going to be anchoring the coverage here on the fox news channel. >> thank you. you asked if he had ever seen anything like this before, we've never had this before, a man and a woman debating each other in the first presidential debate. >> hillary clinton has had to go against a republican. it's all been democrats. last time is when she was running for senate. she's been 38 times but never against somebody in the other party. >> somebody who has been on the debate stage before is rudy giuliani. he's here. actually, he's keeping the couch warm for us back home. he has last-minute advice for donald trump. that's next. >> tidy up while w

didn't they do this with dukakis? it doesn't matter what a is tru it's what is suggested. look at reagan, it created an impression. >> it didn't create the pneumonia, on sunday, donald trump was uncharacteristically silent about secretary clinton's quick leaving from the 9/11 ceremonies, this morning he called into fox news and cnbc. >> i hope she gets well soon. i don't know what is going on, like you, i see awwhat i see, t coughing fit was a week ago, i assume that was pneumonia also. i would think it would have been. something is going on. i just hope she gets well and gets back on the trail. we'll be seeing her at the deba debate. >> what is interesting, they say pneumonia, she was coughing badly, even before that, this was not the first time. it is very interesting to see away is going on. i want her to get better, get out there, i look forward to seeing her in the debate. >> where are we going on this? shou shou >> well, look, if you're donald trump this is the best moment that he has had on the campaign this terms of discipline. he has been tweeting about her health

case in point, 1988, when michael dukakis, the governor of massachusetts gave a boiler plate answer to perm question from bernard shaw. >> governor, if kitty dukakis were raped and murdered, would you favor an irrevocable death penalty for the killer? >> no, i wouldn't, bernard. i've opposed the death penalty for my entire life. i don't see any evidence it's a deterrent and there are better and more effective ways to deal with violent crime. >> colleen? that killed him. i'm not completely sure we, but i think i know why. >> he didn't even flimplg. he showed no emotion about the prospect of his wife being raped and murdered and he just focused on the principle. and people -- viewers want to see someone who looks presidential, but they also want to see someone who's an actual person, with feelings. >> that kind of answer worked in massachusetts. that state, it works. >> but it didn't work anyplace else. it was bloodless, right. and look, this is a big opportunity, i think, for hillary clinton, because, she doesn't often show herself. she doesn't show the heart. when you get to see the pe

and i covered michael dukakis for a year. i said what do you do for fun? he said black mulch.do you do with black mulch? and he goes, i put it on my tomato plants. that was the level of fun. that wasn't much fun. charlie: actually david wrote a column on something like that. he basically said we don't know what she likes, even with obama you know he loves golf and basketball and books all the time. bill, you know what he liked. maureen: and fred hyatt wrote that trump's big sin is being a bore, b-o-o-r and b-o-r-e. charlie: both of those. maureen: he is like the guy you sit down next to at a dinner and he talks about him. charlie: when you look at obama, somebody else you have written a say,bout , is it fair to in your mind, it is not whether i like them or do not. it is how i see them at moment. maureen: exactly. i am so proud of you for knowing that. that's so true. charlie: how do you see obama at this moment in his presidency as he looks at three or four months to go? maureen:

he ran against michael dukakis and saw firsthand how t first-hn the presidential campaign. when it was over in november of 88, george declined an appointment to work in his father's administration and returned to texas to run for governor but at the same time help organize the texas rangers baseball team. as you recall the washington senators expansion team that had been formed a moved to texas in 1972. they were contenders and the deal to buy the team came through. bush stepped back and for the next four years was the public had of the texas rangers. he owned only 2% of the stalk sk and build a new stadium and basked in the globe. they assisted in 1992 but from a distance he stayed in texas and when clinton won the election set his sights and for the same time decided to run for governor of florida. bush was running again. could against the incumbent and richards was heavily favored. he was favored to defeat the incumbent lawton childs but it was an upset and he won in one n texas, jeb lost in florida and from that point on he became the likely successor to his father. tex

and dukakis had a big lead regular member bush got them at the at the conventions of my senses she is not performing well and if you listen to what she is saying it's not meaningful. i think to a certain extent she is not exciting anybody and he basically is. lou: what's interesting about this bringing the press supporter new larger aircraft to accommodate the media, the questions are how is everything and love loveland? i mean how do you deal with the conspiracy discussion about what's causing you to go into a form in a coughing fit quite this is the national media right now that's embarrassing itself. >> you know before she started doing this there was a clock as to how long she had a press conference, 272 days. this is now being counted. lou: by the way the count goes on. >> the mainstream media was not pushing her to have a press conference so much as others because they have this access. lou: everyone is tired of being lied to don't you think wax. >> they get their questions answered by somebody off the record. lou: they get their questions answered? there is no answer. at every

if michael dukakis were asked this question -- >> if kitty dukakis we raped and murdered, would you favor an irrevocable death penalty for the killer? >> reporter: his answer -- >> no, i don't. >> reporter: didn't connect emotionally. al gore tried to hard to fight the test. with george w. bush -- >> a record of appointing judges in the state of texas. that's what a governor gets to do. >> reporter: sighing. and rolling his eyes so much it became a meme. >> ancient rome came to life in "gladiator" with russell crowe. you have to make your case on the issues and you have to be likable, and for the voters, those unexpected moments, they can seal an impression or throw the race wide open for a lot of people watching. >> an awkward moment, one of the jimmy carter debates, the power went off. i think it was in cleveland. they sat their at an half an hour at the podiums and didn't say a word. >> that's really awkward. >> apparently with the nixon and kennedy ba before. >> in the hospital. >> he put on bad makeup. it started to melt under the lights and -- the damage was done. indeed. >> david w

bush and mike dukakis.eased to welcome you to this first presidential debate of the 1988 campaign. the debate commission had just been formed. up till then the debates were run by the league of women voters. they had -- the king -- the thing fell apart because there i knowlot of reasons about second and third hand but a lot of it had to do with they could not agree on moderators. moderators had the old system where you had a moderator than you had three journalists analysts and they could not agree on anybody. they had hundreds of names that were submitted and the candidates, we tried to pick and choose and the whole thing fell apart. other problems i guess, too. and so it was suggested why don't they set up the debate commission so this was formed. janet brown was the executive director. she still is. and ed fouey who was at cbs and the second of producer for the debate commission and i knew it had he called me and asked me to moderate the debate. ares -- he said the rules that you get to ask one question

bush and dukakis never recovered. it was effective.y have seen that moment for the hillary clinton campaign with this immigration people and the angel mothers that trump brought up on stage and put a face to things. >> let's look at the jobs report. it's depressing. we have 628% employment. we have 4.9% unemployment. elizabeth: thank you, gianno. we have david a in for lou dobb. david: the f.b.i. choosing a friday before a holiday weekend to release its report on the investigation into hillary clinton's email sandal. 60 pages of notes show she claimed ignorance on how to handle classified material. telling f.b.i. investigators saying she can't remember receiving training on how to handle sensitive information. she said she relied on the judgment of her aides to know what should and shouldn't be transmitted via email. and we'll take up the fallout

bush and others, dukakis and others, they have released full medical records. in this case that isn't the case. hillary clinton has been more forthcoming than donald trump. donald trump has released a letter from his doctor that was viewed with suspicion by many a medical worker who said he would be the healthiest president of all time, but hillary clinton has only released a statement from her doctor, has not released medical records. we do know she was treated for that blood clot at the end of her term as secretary of state in her term, 2013, and we have not received medical records that have allowed experts like dr. sanjay gupta to look at them. john mccain invited people to come into a room in arizona to inspect the records for a couple hours. that has not happened in this case. american voters know less about the health and vitality of either nominee at this point, and they're the oldest nominees of anyone in our history. it is something to take note of on both sides, that we simply have been given less information. in an era that transparency is called up

that kind of attitude or michael dukakis saying why am i losing to this guy, george h.w. it does have that feel, right, andy? >> it has that feel. if donald trump can look presidential tonight and come off as somebody people say, you know, i can see this man as president of the united states, i think he's got a very, very good chance of winning. hillary clinton, hillary clinton has to maintain her energy. people are looking to see whether she's got the stamina to get through the debate. and i don't think people are that focused on technical answers to technical questions. i think that will pass, it will be a gotcha and the next day everybody will forget about it. the impression people are going to walk away with is whether he's got the discipline to be president and she's got the energy. >> andy puzder, thank you very much for your time. "lou dobbs tonight" kicks off special presidential debate coverage at 7:00 p.m. with interviews with trump's vice presidential choice mike pence and coach bobby knight, live from hofstra university on fox business. tonight's debate, 90 mi

. >> consultant steve murphy worked with dukakis. >> the answer came back, we've arranged for you toide in a tank, they won't let you ride in a tank without a helmet because it's unsafe. he relented. he should have stuck with his instincts. >> that moment turned into this commercial. >> now he wants to be our commander in chief. america can't afford that risk. >> do ads like that really work? the consultants think they do. >> three, four, five -- >> they still rave about this ad. it ran only once, but was talked about so much on tv, they say it changed all campaigns. it was the first negative ad to use fear and raw emotion. >> 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. [explosion] >> these are the stakes. we must either love each other or we must die. >> vote or die. pretty relevant. >> but pretty unfair, a smear on goldwater. >> oh, jeez. >> medicare mckinnon worked on the bush campaign which ran this ad showing the candidates consoling 9/11 victims. >> our president took ashley in his arms and just embraced her, and it was at that moment that we saw ashley's eyes fill up with tears. >> come on

went back in time, remember the last moderator got a lot of attention was bernie shaw when he asked dukakissked about the death penalty. dana and i ordered about frankel asked ford about russian domination, soviet domination of eastern europe. >> ford gets a bum wrap on that. >> i appreciate that. >> dana is representing him well. >> i hear that. i think all of this adds up to a unique position for lester holt, which is he shouldn't be an issue. but he is an issue going in. >> it wasn't necessarily just the hillary clinton campaign that talked about the moderator. last week it was donald trump who said he probably won't get a fair deal because lester holt is a democrat. turns out he is a registered republican apparently. when kellyanne conway said if that was a lie. no, a lie would mean you knew he was a democrat. so there are shades of this. >> don't forget the whopper of all lies -- >> what's the whopper? >> i'm talking about lester holt. >> i didn't send any classified material. i notice dana opened the show saying -- jennifer griffin said hillary clinton was coming from her house in lon

. >> consultant steve murphy worked with dukakis. >> the answer came back, we've arranged for you toe in a tank, they won't let you ride in a tank without a helmet because it's unsafe. he relented. he should have stuck with his instincts. >> that moment turned into this commercial. >> now he wants to be our commander in chief. america can't afford that risk. >> do ads like that really work? the consultants think they do. >> three, four, five -- >> they still rave about this ad. it ran only once, but was talked about so much on tv, they say it changed all campaigns. it was the first negative ad to use fear and raw emotion. >> 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. [explosion] >> these are the stakes. we must either love each other or we must die. >> vote or die. pretty relevant. >> but pretty unfair, a smear on goldwater. >> oh, jeez. >> medicare mckinnon worked on the bush campaign which ran this ad showing the candidates consoling 9/11 victims. >> our president took ashley in his arms and just embraced her, and it was at that moment that we saw ashley's eyes fill up with tears. >> come on,

michael dukakis regretted the way he answered the question about what if your wife were raped at presidentialate. so they had regrets about mistakes, which by the way they blame on themselves asks they never stop thinking about it, wolf. it is something they just never forget. >> you have done an excellent job and we're all looking forward to the documentary tonight gloria. gloria's special report later tonight "almost president:the agony of defeat" 9:00 p.m. eastern and pacific only on cnn. and ahead. much more. if you're searching other travel sites to find a better price... ...stop clicking around... the lowest prices on our hotels are always at hilton.com. so pay less and get more only at hilton.com. what's going on here? i'm val, the orange money retirement squirrel from voya. we're putting away acorns. you know, to show the importance of saving for the future. so you're sort of like a spokes person? more of a spokes metaphor. get organized at voya.com. remember here at ally, nothing stops us from doing right by our customers. who's with me? i'm in. i'm in. i'm in. i'm in. ♪ ♪ one, two,

you think mike dukakis is still wearing that helmet? a new report has found that bomb-sniffing dogs at ten different airports failed tests 52 times in the last two years.. meanwhile, the drug-sniffing dogs are working double shifts and killing it. [ laughter and applause ]ki drugs there! drugs there! woo! woo! i love working at airports! hillary clinton's running mate tim kaine released his medical records yesterday and the result are in, he's a cardboard box. [ laughter ] all these health records. it's so exciting. such an exciting time to be doing comedy. so much talk about medical records. recently posted a video calling donald trump a punk ass, while donald trump recently posted a video calling snoop dogg, nelly. [ laughter and applause ] ladies and gentlemen, we have a great show. for you tonight. >>> he's one of our favorites. we're so excited to have him back on the show, senator bernie sanders is joining us tonight. [ cheers and applause ] she is a fantastic actress. she in the new oliver stone movie "snowden." and we've got mus

. >> governor dukakis. >> i can't believe i'm losing to this guy. >> tomorrow in the snl season premier revising her role and alec baldwin will step up and play donald trump. in monday night's debate, it gave the writers too much color to play with. the panel is back. sarah, i will start with you. you were most recently involved where snl had an impact. you were talking about how you take a debate performance and it's about sometimes amplifying a victory. you guys took what was considered a draw and some people thought you lost and amplified to to a victory. >> "saturday night live" is such an important part of our culture and it has been around for so long, i think they contributed to this fact that people look at politicians differently than they used to. what also happened was they made fun of bush on his reading and how he gave speeches and it contributed to people thinking he was not as smart. >> he has never shaken that. as far as the caricature. >> among party electorate, that is true. they don't pay attention to other news. they watch comedy central and that. if there was a prog