and michael dukakis was the nominee and he was entitled to a security briefing.as ambassador to the u.n. and colin powell, we were all new and colin powell was chairman of the joint chiefs and he walks in, the hero of the western world and i said, i'm a mere mortal female civilian. but he really commanded a presence with all the things that he had done and his warmth and his brilliance, frankly. and there's so many wonderful stories about the things that he did and our relationship. we were very, very good friends. >> secretary albright, as i said, you were the first woman to be secretary of state. secretary powell was the first black american to be secretary of state. what did that mean in terms of how america was seen abroad? >> well, i think it made a very large difference, because people had been used to having one white male after another as secretary of state. and i think the combination of both of us being new and both of us, frankly, having an immigrant background in some kind -- some kind. his family came from jamaica. i actually came my -- with my famil

in my book "the commanders" how powell was very reluctant because bush senior in the run against dukakisce-baiting willie horton ads, powell was appalled, found this was unacceptable, and so he wouldn't take the initial jobs that were offered, stayed in the army, and eventually bush made him chairman of the joint chiefs and powell accepted and he had quite a close relationship. but that initial -- he wasn't going to play ball with even a president who had played the willie horton card in a very ugly political race-baiting way. >> it was an awful ad. it was an awful time for those of us old enough to remember that. another interesting part of your interview, though, with him was this comment he made about this characterization of him as a reluctant warrior. here it is. >> the reluctant warrior. whenever that is asked of me, i said true. i am a reluctant warrior. >> yeah? >> i don't like wars. i don't like to be a warrior. but remember the other thing that is well known about me. and that is we go to war and i will do everything i can to beat the crap out of somebody, and win it. >> maybe

maybe michael dukakis can tell us. good seeing you.patrick. having said that, i'm curious what you made of that incident. not my deval patrick one-on-one exclusive, but your seeing what joe manchin was doing as chuck schumer was speaking. what did you think? >> well, first, refusing to raise the dead limit after you added $8 trillion, which is what republicans did under trump is kind of stupid. we have to deal with it. they raised this money by tax cuts for the rich. we're going to pay for it. >> neil: both parties have done this, right? barack obama wasn't keen on raising the debt ceiling and joe biden. they all do it, right? >> to be sure. that's no reason for continuing to do it. particularly at this time. we got important things to do. screwing around with the debt limit is not one of them. so not surprisingly, mcconnell capitulated. but what are we doing here? a country to run. a world to deal with. we have great opportunities in my opinion under joe biden. it's time we did it. >> neil: i'm curious what you make of the fact that m

i can't tell you how many clients i had, i'm not a dukakis democrat. you have mcauliffe welcoming him and you see the campaign trying to smoke out trump. they want trump to -- i don't think trump has the guts. every bully is a coward inside and he had had the guts to come into virginia and not campaign. there's just no way. >> and kirsten, how much of a bellwether is this? we say this time and again. we've said this so many times that if mcauliffe loses in virginia, this means bad things for democrats in 2022. that's not necessarily the case. we don't know where things are going to be a year from now, but it sure feels like this is huge. this is big. >> i actually, i don't think it's quite as big of a bellwether as everybody's saying. it's not necessarily predictive, but we don't have anything else. >> right. >> so i think that's why people are paying so much attention to this because there's else really to look at and make any judgment on where things are. >> the thing that i find so fascinating about this race is when you have an event like you were

according to research by the dukakis center for urban and regional policy, 68% of boston's rental propertiesre single units owned by small landlords . during the pandemic, these landlords have accounted for just 34% of evictions and nearly 40% of them offered rent deferment plans to their tenants. if small landlords are more likely to be part of the solution than part of the problem, as these numbers suggest, what will you do to protect them from bankruptcy and incentivize more tenant friendly behavior? one minute please. >> well, certainly housing is too expensive for too many bostonians. i am committed to making sure that this city is a place for everyone who wants to call boston home home, regardless of what their accent is. boston should be a place for anyone who wants to be here. certainly, we have to find deeper affordability. certainly we have to create and i'm committed to creating more first time homebuyer opportunities for our city's residents, especially first generation homebuyers. families who have been here for generations who have not had an opportunity to set down roots and o

not two weeks later, after withering attacks from the press, democrat dukakis brandished his defenseietly without fanfare, the house and senate hastefully passed the revised 89 defense bill without the offending language. six months later george h. w. bush was elected president of the united states. on november 9, 1989, the berlin wall came down and with it the soviet union. senator pete wilson had indeed served this nation with distinction and can take a seat of honor among those who won the cold war. his washington time was coming to an end because california needed him back to restore its golden luster. thank you. [applause] >> hi. i was governor wilson's legal affairs secretary and counsel during his second term. winston churchill once observed that courage is the essential quality of human nature because without that quality, none of the other qualities of human nature can be guaranteed. pete wilson and his tenure as governor exuded courage and decisiveness of [inaudible] nature. let me give four very brief examples of this. number one, april 29, 1992, riots erupted in los angel

. >> governor dukakis, rebuttal?we spent years and years watching sitcoms and dramas and talk shows by then, we knew them by heart, that if somebody played on that and parodied it, we got it instantly. >> i appreciate you coming in under these conditions, lewis, i really do. you want to hold the credits? okay. now see, we were going to show the credits and you screwed that up, okay, because you're late. >> “the garry shandling show” was aware of the fact that it was a situation comedy. it highlighted the cliches in funny ways. >> are you looking into the camera? >> yeah. no, i didn't -- >> don't look into the camera. >> i didn't. >> don't. you don't come in here and look into the camera. >> i didn't. >> i'll bop you. i will. if i see a tape of this show and you're looking into the camera -- >> well, it's about that time. >> “pee-wee's playhouse” on cbs, a so-called saturday morning kids' show that adults could watch and wink at each other as they were watching it, is very clever. >> good morning. what's today's secre