and away from his democratic opponent, michael dukakis, and it worked. so today's republican party ripped a page from the exact same racist fear-mongering playbook. in wisconsin, many of the pro-ron johnson ads have hammered barnes, calling him a dangerous democrat. while in pennsylvania, republican senate nominee mehmet oz has gone after his democratic opponent, john fetorman, calling his work on criminal justice reform pro-criminal and insinuating that his tattoos, which represent his commitment as mayor to end gun violence means that fetterman has ties to the crips. as a new ad from two democratic members of congress points out, republicans, including the house minority leader, don't exactly have the best track record when it comes to crime. kevin mccarthy, you want to talk about law and order, let's talk. bakersfield is now ranked as one of the top ten most dangerous metro areas in america. your own sheriff said, we know we have a violent crime issue. kevin, your district has been the murder capital of california for five years in a row. and if you'r

. >> weekend prison passes, dukakis on crime. >> such have been a staple on campaigns. >> in the northrry beasley is pushing back. >> the first thing we absolutely must do is fund the police. i do not support defunding the police. >> a former chief justice of the state supreme court, she's now running against congressman ted bud. >> left wing extremist named sherry beasley. >> reporter: durham county cher itch supports beasley and said she's hardly extreme but he acknowledged challenges in how some voters view their party. do you think that was a mistake to use those words, defund the police? >> i think defund the police, the phrase itself, did more damage to law enforcement and communities than anyone ever imagined. unfortunately, we're seeing that now. reforming the criminal justice system? absolutely. that's what we should be having. >> on november 8th, vote like your life depends on it. it just might. >> a message that will resonate in some places. >>> new developments in a story we've been following. authorities in texas have charged a former police officer in the shooting of an u

bush blasting michael dukakis -- >> weekend prison passes, dukakis on crime. >> such spots have beencan campaigns. in the north carolina senate race, democratic hopeful sharon beasley is pushing back on a slogan that became a rallying cry for some progressives two years ago, that she never backed. >> the first thing we absolutely must do is to fund the police. i do not support defunding the police. >> a former chief justice of the state supreme court, she is now running against congressman ted budd, but facing the full weight of the republican party. >> left wing extremists named cheri beasley. >> durham county sheriff clarence birkhead, who's running for a second term as a democrat, supports beasley and says she is hardly extreme. but he acknowledged challenges in how some voters view their party. >> do you think that was a mistake for some democrats to use those words defund the police? >> i think defund the police the phrase itself did more damage than law enforcement and communities than anyone ever imagined. unfortunately, we are seeing the effects of that now. reforming the cri

. >> governor, if kitty dukakis was raped and murdered, would you favor an irrevocable death penalty killer? >> it was classic bernie shaw that was the moment when people took another look at michael dukakis and made a decision about him that no doubt had an impact ultimately on their vote. >> a year later, tiananmen square. the chinese government cracked down on news coverage, forcing shaw off of the air. >> goodbye from beijing. i am a child of democracy and when we were shut down, i froze with anger. i actually cried in my hotel room. >> he was the face of cnn and a trusted news around the world. >> always trusted, solid, that to me is going to be his legacy. you can count on him. brand. >> has a public trust came with a personal cost. he said he sacrificed precious time away from his wife and too children -- two children. >> i had to believe it was a worthwhile price to pay. you will pay a price. >> the price of being a witness to history and the privilege of being trusted to report it. >> you can defend this all of the time and please, pass the word. [applause] >> a man who need

. >> dukakis allowed first degree murders to have weekend passes from prison. one was wilie horton. the man and repeatedly raping his girlfriend. >> ailes said he didn't do it but it was hard to believe he wasn't involved. >> do you think it is racist? >> i don't think it is racist. >> you mean you have a foreboding looking black man out there. that wasn't put up by whoever did this to scare the dickens out of white people? >> i can't talk to you about the motives. i suspect whoever did that ad did it for money. >> ailes had an ability to zero in on people's greatest fears and to elevate those fears into something of a political force. >> so we just expect to do fine balanced journalism. >> roger ailes and murdoch view the world the same way. they are conservative. they believe in punching people in the nose. rather than being polite about it. and so, they were kindred spirits. >> this was the perfect opportunity for these two men to create what had always been a dream. a new tv news network that reflected their political views. bold and brilliant. diamonds by pandora. exquisitely b

. >> this was my first test when governor dukakis thought they wouldn't have an impact or sway votersy absolutely did. in the contest let's listen to barnes and fetterman. >> mandela barnes would join their squad. he wanted to abolish i.c.e., open our borders, and release violent offenders. >> we need it for our residents and communities. where will that money come from? it can come from overbloated bunts and police departments. >> we should know who's in our prison. we'd better be dam nngz sure it's prompt for these folks to be in there. >> you saw a mix there. the beginning of that was ads and then some of the past comments. you have two candidates that are part of the progressive win who you mention after the history, the killing of george floyd when a lot of democrats start to question police resources or at least police reforms. that's one of the places where they've found themselves in quicksand. deforming or defunding are completely different phrases. >> we have to put this in the context of violent crime is becoming an issue for residents, particularly those who are adjacent t

we can present process, dukakis on crime. >> so we remember when this ad played out and it was clearly the playing on the racism that existed in america. and so as we are debating, and i think he made a good point about defund the police and how people process that, but they were debating these nuances, very nuanced points and i am curious, in your state of texas, that we just talked about, that abbott embattled faced off last night and the date bait last night and i am curious that in texas, it's going to be a purple state, we've yet to see that. i'm curious how that might play out in your neck of the woods. >> we have blue. i do want to be clear. i actually believe that we are blue. i think that the republicans know that we are blue, obviously, -- >> hasn't played out that way though. >> it hasn't played out that way, but that's why when we decided that we are going to allow to move to the state house, we need to put out once you, all we need to do whatever takes. we're gonna session after session because they need to make sure they made voting even more difficult. texas is a majorit

no one's -- until michael dukakis asked me to go out on the campaign trail.t month or so, so we were in the downward spiral, for sure. but what happened was that when i got on twitter, i think a personality comes out. and you are likes and dislikes, because i'm not and activists. you know, i am not a pundit. but you know, i'm just an american citizen who has an opinion. >> one last question i have to ask, mark, before i let you go, a star wars question from a fanboy. what was it like to be back on the screen, as look skywalker? aided by cgi, in the tv series on disney+ after all those years. i mean, i literally, like many, whooped out loud when you are right and that fight scene in the season to finale. >> well, john favreau and dave filoni invited me over to watch some footage. they said they wanted my opinion. i said, well, that's unusual. no one has done that before i came to star wars, certainly, not in the sequel. so, i went over. they showed me the footage, and then, they proposed this idea, which i was gobsmacked, as you british are fond of saying, bec

i worked in congress for many years and in the michael dukakis campaign, and bill clinton, his firstneed to set up? >> i'm talking to a reporter, laley, who is covering the herschel walker campaign, and i'm going back to my experience in the clinton years as she's talking about trying to get the story from herschchel walker.r. >> t this weekk i f feel like i expxperiencd whwhat some ofof te othther embeds s are experirien, all o of ply messasages s to thr stafaffers, not t a lot of resps coming bacack. >>>> i rememember beining on thr side e as a staffffer and a stoy hit. in n the clintnton c campaign wt hit b by jenninifer and the drat storyry in a coupuple of weeks. and clinton's's poll numbersrs dropppped a a lotot on the charr issue. and partrt way he fought backk s to goo confront,t, was to answer every q question. youou get the sensese w walker s tryrying to movove towards thaty takaking thesee questionsns tod? >> no, i think thihis was t the campaign's s way of makaking sue that ththe p press got off their back k a little.. now his campaign staffers can say, "hey, he gaggled."

i worked in congress for many years and in the michael dukakis campaign, and bill clinton, his firsted to set up? >> i'm talking to a reporter, laley, who is covering the herschel walker campaign, and i'm going back to my experience in the clinton years as she's talking about trying to get the story from herschel walker. >> stephen: jim? >> this week i feel like i experienced what some of the other embeds are experiencing, all of all messages to their staffers, not a lot of responses coming back. >> i remember being on the other side as a staffer and a story hit. in the clinton campaign we got hit by jennifer and the draft stories in a couple of weeks. and clinton's poll numbers dropped a lot on the character issue. and part way he fought back was to go confront, was to answer every question. you get the sense walker is trying to move towards that by taking these questions today? >> no, i think this was the campaign's way of making sure that the press got off their back a little. now his campaign staffers can say, "hey, he gaggled." >> stephen: yeah. >> she gave a good answer right t

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no one's ever after my -- martin dukakis asked me to go out on the campaign trail. in the last month or so. he was in a downward spiral for sure. but what happened was when i got on twitter, i think your personality comes out. and your likes and dislikes. i'm not an activist, i'm not a pundit, but i'm just an american who has an opinion. i think that comes out. like i say, we never see the legs -- if you wrote up a screenplay or a novel, based on the last six years of our political history, and went back in a time machine, you wouldn't be able to sell a cause nobody would believe it. these are extraordinary times. they require extraordinary measures. >> they are indeed. you couldn't make the stuff up. one last question i need to ask, mark, before i let you go. it's a star wars question. what's it like being back on the screen as loop -- in the tv serious the mandalorian on disney+ after all those years. i literally, like many whooped out loud in your fight scene on the season june finale. >> john favrow and dave -- invited me over to watch some footage. they said th

released the now infamous willie horton ad, which tried to paint his democratic opponent, michael dukakis6, trump's -- ad undocumented immigrant who killed two people to the thousands of migrants fleeing violence in central america. that ad was pulled from outlets following massive backlash, yes, including fox. so often conservatives resort to demonizing black and brown people to eke across the electoral finish line. but in the days of willie horton, at least the news media pushback. bush 41 might have still of won the election at least in part of that ad, but least the news media called it out for what it was, racist. nowadays, the news media often either glosses over these racist appeals -- check out this snazzy headline about marjorie taylor greene in the new york times. or the news media amplifies the racist appeals, working in tandem, with republicans. just this week, tucker carlson accused msnbc host a tiffany cross of inciting minorities into a race war against white people just because she spoke her mind. not to be outdone, clara logan pushed qanon conspiracies about a global caba

in other, words i've always voted, as i said, no one has ever asked for my help until michael dukakis asked me to go out on the campaign trail. it was in the last month or so. so, he was in a downward spiral for sure. but what happened was that when i got on twitter, i think your personality comes up. and you're like sent dislikes. because i am not an activist, you know, i'm not a pundit i'm just an american citizen who has an opinion. so i think that that comes out. and, like i said, we have never seen the likes of it. i, mean you brought up a screenplay or a novel based on the last six years of our political history. and then went back in a time machine ten years. you wouldn't be able to sell it because nobody would believe it. >> yeah. >> it's easier than extraordinary dimes, and they require extraordinary measures. >> they are indeed. you could not make the stuff up. one last question i have to ask before i let you go. it's a star wars question from a fanboy. what was it like to be back on the screen us looks got walkers? well, kind of back on screen aided by cgi in the tv series

up here and talks about the party has lost the white house in five of its last six tries, michael dukakis says ten state hall was a encouraging showing. the democratic party needs all of the help they can get. what should they do? abandon internationalism, abandon the no longer a formidable strategy of grounding american security and prosperity and a congenial world environment. instead, the parting needs an approach that emphasizes the restoration of military and economic strength. that is more discriminating about foreign policy commitments and more willing to use force unilaterally to secure important interests. it advocates tougher trade policies and seeks greater self sufficiency. a new nationalism. and the time we have one, what should the left do? get tougher. i link it there. this is the time to talk just briefly about bill clinton. and, bill clinton's utopian thinking. bill clinton in 1992, his campaign song was fleetwood mac's don't stop thinking about tomorrow. yesterday's gone, yesterday's gone, do not stop thinking about tomorrow. bill clinton was this very charismatic figure

in buford national cemetery and these men participate in that ceremony alongside governor, michael dukakis and they are able to record in mass newspapers. they're understanding and cruises oral history is now in the massachusetts state archives, but also in some newspapers at the time and they can remember and say how their families use the port and why they knew that and biddle his his civil war answer was already died, so he was able to march alongside of him in the memorial day celebrations. both of these men are in their 80s the time that they published this but the port still holds way and this is where i think we need to go further. we need to reckon with the port because these individuals that i discussed tonight. the civil war was unforgettable and as such we need to remember them we need to learn their names document them as the preservers a civil war memory. not just the victims of the lost cause and reconciliations understanding its. thank you. wonderful. thank you so much everybody. these were fantastic talks. i'm really excited to dive into the q&a with all of you. so thank yo

ad, he says that that spot which attempted to stir up racial panic by misleadingly linking michael dukakisweekend pass only aired on tv one time because just 34 years ago, even most republicans fund it too crude and every the edge. listening to that 1980 spot and the tone that offended many folks back then seems calm and measured compared to the natural born killers on aside vibe for the 2022 attack ads. today any and all guardrails have been taken down. and who is behind the behind the guardrails ads? well, the new group called citizens for sanity. the leaders of which have associated with the american first legal foundation. and their president is none other than former trump white house official stephen miller. the brains behind some of the mower horrific and tragic policies are things like the family separation policy at the southern border. and mainstreaming is where we begin the hour with some of our favorite reporters. tim miller, and also joining us charles blow and also frank is back. and tim, i'll start but. jd vance is one thing where i said that trump has said one thing that i

much you find out that is lost to history, you go back for example, i was watching a speech michael dukakis made when bob dole and george hw bush won the republican nomination, and i was listening specifically and, bob dole says george hw bush isn't much of a leader. he says bob dole isn't much of a leader. i agree with both of these guys, neither of them is much of a leader. that is just kind of a great line and you can only find that through c-span and i would not have had this book if it were not for c-span so obviously kind of appropriate today get a kate it to c-span. >> my favorite part of watching c-span is during the senate vote, you see the interactions on the senate floor, a lot of fun to watch. i spend hours watching that. in the great american political trivia challenge you have a whole section on political insult. why did you include that? >> i find them fascinating. politicians are very good in terms of being able to sometimes be very creative in terms of the way they insult people. i find it fascinating and there is overlap between that and presidential campaigns. i remember