inside ukraine, a against domaovych dumecinko. the ukrainians are partly at fault for the domestic divisions. but i think ukraine should remain united. it should be in europe. should have been handled with more foresight. >> but you have to inject vladimir putin into it before what happened and before you nukovic- before ya left. he had righted that she had learned that he had lured him with money and with oil prices. ukraine in europe goes against their sense of history and a sense of who they are. so it would be the preference of any russian government to keep ukraine from throwing his future in with the work that's with the west. yanukovic fled to europe. >> i think putin interprets the demonstrations that took place in kiev, which started when yanukovic was moving and instigated by the west and supported by the west. >> no doubt he believes that. >> i have no question that he believes that. >> is somehow we were behind, the west, the u.s. and europe. that the cia and others. >> and i think he probably pointes that the high rea