bought out of bankruptcy, a fantastic team that has turned around 80 iconic brands, including duncan hines we think this company also is underappreciated and the margins are growing at a nice rate and it has the potential for an increase and their balance sheet characteristics, definitely something we like. >> up 61% in three years steve, what do you think, is this a one day wonder, this rally? do you suspect this -- what has been a very quiet market in terms of volatility that we could see it beginning of a new trend here >> you know, you really have to look at it in a couple of different ways, there's been the rise of pass i have investing versus active management and whenever you look back, bill, look at a lot of charts, whenever we do sell off the sell-offs are shortener duration and even if they are in deep, you whip back quickly. and i think it's a matter of guys just getting involved in what they deem as to be the best marketplace and best sector, the best space, and you can't keep people out of the equity market. it just seems like this market has a bid. there might be different le