she was also part of -- and we will find more out when the dunham report drops.g of the fbi of the doj in order to spy on the trump campaign. these are serious matters. these are police state tactics. very unamerican. and it's very dangerous because we all know that given joe biden's mental state, which frankly is in decline daily, we see it. she will be more -- or whoever he picks will be more of a co-president than a vice president. this is the most consequential decision who he will pick as a vice president. ainsley: does that mean the vice presidential pick this election is more important than ever? >> absolutely. and, remember, the democrats were so concerned about the kind of power that dick cheney had or they said he had during the bush years. whoever will be vice president will be a co-president and may even end up taking over before his term is over. so we need to look very closely. i mean, ainsley, karen bass is very dangerous. all the things that we saw leading up to fidel castro's revolution. beerng, statues, burning books, punishing dissenters all of