star washen dunmore's highest. after they abandoned know for, moralist's around new year's day -- more or less around new year's day 1776. >> what did you think of king george iii? >> he was not as bad as people made out. in other words, he was not an ogre. he was a man who had big ambitions to restore the importance of the crown and he did not really succeed. he regarded the american revolution in the same way that a lot of politicians in washington regarded vietnam. he felt that if he could not hold america, the dominoes will fall in the rest of the british empire. he was a bad decision maker for the british government in the early years. >> what is your take on the 16 points that were made by thomas jefferson in the virginia constitution and then the declaration of independence? >> all that stuff about george iii being an ogre and responsible for everything, if your urging a revolution, by political theory, you could overthrow retired. overthrowing a tyrant would be a good thing. in order to make the case they n

it was fort dunmore for a while. he had an ego a mile wide. >> so what was the relationship in those days between george washington and dunmore? >> they knew each other. late winter, before the hostilities got intense in the capital of virginia, they were on some terms. they were both land speculators and they shared in this interest and george washington was developing those and dunmore was buying all that he could get. but then they fell out. i don't think they fell out so much for personal reasons. this guy's way of doing business was sending raiding parties and capture people. >> what was his relationship with the citizens of virginia? >> he did not have much in the way of political clout when he was in norfolk. his troops were in control of the immediate area, but basically he did not have a wide reach, except through the sloops and little ships that they would send up some of the rivers to capture people at plantations. >> what kind of rights to the people of virginia or the people of the colonies have in relat

blair.a baron and the county in virginia named dunmore. he had an ego a mile wide. >> what would've been a personal relationship between george washington and him? >> they knew each other. in the spring of 1775 or the late winter before the hostilities that really got the sense in williamsburg, which is the capital of virginia, there were on some terms. there were not friendly. both of them land speculator. they shared this interest in the land in the west. george washington was developing those and dunmore was buying up all he could get. but then they fell out. i don't think they fell out so much for personal reasons as because of this year washington had that this guy's way of doing business was to send raiding parties up a little rivers in virginia and capture people. >> what power would he have had over george washington and the rest of the citizens of virginia? party did not have very much unless you were right within the reach of his immediate political clout. -- >> he did not have very much. basically, he did not have a wide reach e