dupont and the major about 20 years, plus, and going on this model. there are a lot of pieces to it. if it were as simple as training, it would be a one- sentence resolution. there is a lot to it. it is not written so finite, it is not in four or five-page document. again, the heart and soul is this -- it is not an four or five-page document. we will not know until it happens. and so, i want to push for that piece of it. regarding the dgo recommendation, height specifically put in the word " recommendation," and sometimes it takes four years to get this through. rather than sitting in we would do this, in a case where there should be a recommendation, so i appreciate this, in a timely way. so if there is any other question, i am happy to answer those questions, as a working on this document day and night. president mazzucco: commissioner slaughter? commissioner slaughter: i certainly appreciate all of what has gone on. that is why i support the resolution. if we adopt this with the words that are here but with some expectation, and i would say more th

dupont you talked about the way the model has changed. i wonder if you could tell us how flex flexibility is important, if it is, to you in how it is implemented in a particular city, and how the city has to analyze what they do . we >> we do see basics ever what we do need to do there. i think it is a critical element. the specialization of the officer, the ability of the officer to be on the scene to respond is important. you think you-all have different needs. i would think homeless emphasis would be one you woo want to take a more intense look at and one we are doing ourselves in memphis. it would be critical to constantly change the model. >> seeing how you implemented in memphis and how it has been implemented in other cities around the country, what are two or three things that -- key steps for us if we're going to mention this model and endorse it. not only just today, tomorrow, next week, but next sure to make sure this implementation is a success? >> i think you have set the taupe about community ownership. i think that is a cri

the dupont family and the ones that set up the american liberty league. that was successful because they have unlimited amounts of money. there were so popular, they were not able to stop it. they began to finance right-wing think tanks. they have been successful to the university of chicago economics department and notable fraud such as milton freed man. the idea of neoliberalism is there should be massive, selective tax cuts. margaret thatcher it is there is no alternative. of course that's absurd. there was an alternative. we have to connect the dots to understand what is going on today. i read the chronicle. so what i've done is put together a montage of the murder of public sector, which is going on everyday. in fact all of the public sector is in body shape. public libraries, parks from the municipal to the national level. our character is among the worst in the world. the new deal deals with things in a different way. when i was going to school, california school's were the best. now they are among the worst with the new budget cuts. of course, my

dupont, thank you for all your time. over time, have you had an opportunity to look at our 40-hour training that i believe a number of our officers have gone through in the san francisco police department in connection with mental health and mental illness? i guess that's the preliminary question. >> i have seen some of it. if there are symptoms of mental illness, i know it will be within the training. eight hours of interacting with people with mental illness is very, very possible. one of the things we encourage, and i know your training does, too, we want the officers to talk. it is what we call the human side. how much we're alike. most of the time in that discussion is i want a job. i want a home. this is something we all have in common. i know that's been introduced into your 40-hours or so of training. i'm not sure, but the levels of verbal deescalation skills, when we started we started with four hours of verbal de-escalation and then realized it had to be more than that. it requires a certain skill level. oftent

dupont and major cochrane from memphis estimate it takes from six months to a year to roll up a cit program. i want to make sure that program is up and running. i heard, and i do not know if this is completely true, that this commission adopted cit many years ago, and it was never implemented. i can see that happening again. if i can help it, it will get implemented. but it gives you a sign of how difficult it is to make reform, especially when it comes to a difficult issue involving our mental health community. i do want to make sure that whatever we discussed tonight, whatever program we come up with, that cit needs to be up and running. we need training in place before we give weapons. if you have new weapons and you have cit barely having our second meeting, you're going to use one of the other. also, dr. sang came twice to tell us he would strongly recommend that we have defibrillators, automated external defibrillators, if we adopt any weapon that might stop or capture the heart. as an immigrant rights activist, i cannot let this go. we cannot give money to arizona. there cannot be mo

dupont, who have been doing this work for decades -- having two or 3 officer-involved shootings of mentallyill folks in 23 years is a an incredible number -- is an incredible number. i am excited to meet them in person when they come to san francisco, to pick their brains even more. training is important, but it is about using that training every day in a thought out manner. there is a critical intervention-trained officer during every station at every time. i think those are some of the key things. there is a meeting occurring in los angeles, and i want to think the department for arranging for that trip for us, to make sure we do all of our homework in preparing for this upcoming commission hearing. commissioner kingsley: i was the only commissioner who had not participated in this meeting on friday, until dr. marshall appeared. i just want to thank you on behalf of all the rest of the commissioners, director hicks, and the three commissioners to participated in this and are -- and are participating in an ongoing fashion. in has been earmarked by the police commission as being our number

dupont and major cochrane from the memphis police department when they came to stand in cisco, and one of the things they told us after they had visited clinics and visited some of our treatment venues or given information on the spectrum of care and system of care that we have in san francisco -- one of the things they said was that it is very robust, very strong. this is many times the amount of resources and services that we have locally in memphis, so what that said to us is that we need to work better in terms of our coordination, in terms of optimal utilization. the department has worked very hard over the last 10 years to create a matrix of services, to respond to individuals who may be having a psychotic episode, and i can go through some of those venues if you are interested. the first that has been mentioned is the urgent care clinic, which is a treatment venue located in the south of market district, located by the progress foundation. it does have an overnight capacity of 12 beds, but it operates as an outpatient and crisis clinic 24 hours a day, and has the capability of b

i should also say the architects of the memphis model, sam cochrane and randy dupont, did fly to san francisco to explain this model to us and answer our questions. they testified last wednesday in detail about this program and they were amazing in guiding us along the way. supervisor mirkarimi: i just want to extend -- i can say this safely for all of us -- that was an impressive hearing. i watched it. i thought the work that you and commissioner dejesus and hammer put into that, i really just made the police commission shine. i very much appreciate the effort that led up to it and the result coming from it. >> thank you. president thomas mazzucco was also agreed to build the bridge between the public and the mental health stakeholders. it was great to see the mental- health community come together and agree we need this reform. supervisor mirkarimi: leading up to that, a number of us elected expressed concern about what we heard a couple of months ago about the elimination, series reduction of mental health training for the primary responders of the police department, related to th

. >> hi, sam dupont from mdm blogs mobile. i'm nearly done with the book and enjoying it very much. my question has to do with the state departments misstepped as you describe them. i think you do a good job of popping the bubble of utopianism that has surrounded the technology. i guess my own feeling about the state department's work what they have been trying to do is introduce an old fashioned bureaucracy into two new technologies. their missteps have been caused if anything by an excess of success in and bringing this technology to the work of other departments. and i think -- you do a good job of describing the mistakes that they've made. i'm wondering how you would -- you don't necessarily in the book get too much into subscriptions for further, you know. i wanted to give you this opportunity to if you do have ideas about how they could do a better job, how they would go about it? please. >> sure. well, i think we touched upon that briefly when we talked about the cyber realism. to me, you know, i try to be as much country and government independent and not specific in the boo

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on a 20 or 30 or 40 dupont? >> i don't know. i can say that traditionally we have a pretty short repayment period in our state, much more brief time period than others. and i cannot pay off the top of my head. my guess is it's more of a-15 or 20 year. >> so for 15 of 20 years you will be making those payments. have you noticed any pattern about the bidding on these projects, whether it's higher or lower than usual? had a contract been coming in with unusually low bids? >> there is so much competition. contractors are so hungry that we are getting some of the best prices we have in the last 10 years. >> so for the next 15 or 20 years, your payments will be lower because you get this you rather than two years ago, rather than two years from now? >> that's absolutely right. in fact, we increased our power and capacity because we know, as your question is that we're getting a better value right now but making those investment and other long-term return of benefits to a. >> the added benefits of we need to jobs right now. now, on inf

joe joins us from dupont, washington. good morning. caller: you put a graph up about the effect of the largest exporter of oil to the united states was canada, and of course there oil comes from alberta, and it is really and 30 oil -- dirty oil in the sense there is a cost to extract it, etc. at the beginning of the obama administration and obama and all the environmentalist or talking about how they did not want canadian oil. now that the middle east supply is in in jeopardy, you do not hear anyone, any more about the fact that they do not want canadian oil, which is probably the most reliable source to the united states, compared to the middle east, venezuela, etc. i find it ironic that i do not hear anything more from the invite jim -- environmentalists that oil prices are -- now that oil prices are at $100 a barrel. guest: canada as an important source. have a vast amount of supplies that can be developed, and they will develop them. asked the question is where should that oil go? his argument against canadian oil mixups leno's cen