duran duran, u 2, guns and roses. one of the biggest bands of the decade and decade before and since, kiss. co-founder, bass player gene simmons joins me now. great to have you back. let's talk about the eighties. you decided to remove the makeup the bond had worn, it was a huge deal. you said at the time it felt good. were you nervous, worried how fans would react? >> i was scared to death. i mean, we started off defying the odds. we decided to put together the band we never saw on stage. we were four knuckleheads off the streets of new york who didn't have a clue what marketing was, what it all meant and all that, we had this bizarre notion. and on day one, we put on the makeup that would become our trademark. here we are 42 years later, america's number one american gold record award winning group of all time. but during the eighties, it was a period of flux, nobody really knew what was going on. more and more bands played guitar became sort of heavy metal big hair bands, bon jovis and so on. in my opinion fluff and sugar coating took the place of danger and in my opinion rock lost its soul. >> when you hear the term, i remember all my friends being in the kiss army. i was not cool enough to be drafted into the kiss army unfortunately, but when you hear the term eighties music, what does it mean to you, what do you think of when you hear that term. >> flux. it was a time lots of things were going on at the same place. for me, madonna was there, duranday, god bless her. prince was an anomaly, not since jimi hendrix had i witnessed anything that an artist has has the stage craft and ability to combine blues, soul, rock. if prince was only a guitar player, lead guitar player in the band, everybody would say who is that kid, that guy has the goods. he was a multi instrumentalist, wrote his own stuff, did the whole thing. out of the eighties, rap, hip-hop became the big musical genre that continues today, but it was prince himself as a stand-alone musical person that defied all the definitions of what you were supposed to be. rock acts here and there and prince rode above all that stuff. an anomaly. >> still hard to believe he's gone, david bowie, so many people we lost, so many incredibly talented singers, musicians. gene simmons, great to talk to you always. thanks so much. appreciate it. >> duck face. >> thanks. >> cnn original series the eighties airs in a few minutes at the top of the hour. rock on. >>> after the break, ken starr