dick durbin, number two democrat in the senate.nd republican kelly ayotte, a member of the senate armed services committee. and we'll ask our sunday panel whether president obama has badly misjudged vladimir putin. >>> then, the nation's governors come to washington to tackle tough issues like immigration and obamacare. we'll talk with wisconsin governor scott walker and vth's peter shumlin. and our power player of the week. i get up close and personal with washington's newest and certainly most adorable celebrity. the giant panda cub bao bao. all right now on "fox news sunday." hello again from fox news in washington. we start with ukraine, where the situation is changing by the hour. the parliament has voted president yanukovych out of office. opposition forces appear to have taken over most of the capital of kiev. but the president says he will not step down and speaks of a coup carried out by bandits. let's get the latest from fox senior foreign affairs correspondent amy kellogg reporting from moscow. amy? >> reporter: hi, chri

senator durbin, you spoke with former prime minister tymoshenko yesterday. what is your latest information? have the protesters and the west, have they won in ukraine? >> well, chris, it was quite a relief yesterday. yulia tymoshenko has been in prison for two and a half years, but i've been working for almost two years for her release, and she was finally released by a unanimous vote in their parliament. i spoke to her just after she had addressed the crowd in the square. she sounded tired and looked frail on the reports that we'd seen, but she told me, she assured me that she's looking for a peaceful resolution to the problems in ukraine, to follow the constitution and the law. this whole charge of a coup by yanukovych, let me tell you, it makes no sense. the coup, if any, was by the parliament that enacted the laws that made it clear that they wanted change in ukraine. >> senator ayotte, as we say, ukraine's parliament has voted president yanukovych out of office, but he is calling it a coup and refusing to step down. what happens now? >> i would say, chr

we'll talk about that with the number two democrat in the senate leadership dick durbin of illinois. plus analysis from our panel of experts. and -- >> ladies and gentlemen, the beatles! >> schieffer: we'll look back at the invasion of america that happened 50 years ago today. 60 years of news because this is "face the nation." captioning sponsored by cbs good morning again. start with cbs news correspondent covering the sochi olympics, mark phillips. >> well can i'm happy to report that what is is sports the talk about security and corruption and ex pension of course the gay rights issue for the last few days since the games have actually started. sports has raised its head and people are pretty relieved. games have been running smoothly, the fears of really tight security on the ground here have not materialized as we know the russians have about, they say, 40,000 people involved in making these games safe. but most of them i'm happy to say are not visible in the olympics site spread through the hinterland around the whole district. if you drive up the road between this cluster her

durbin: i want to thank the senator from new mexico. madam president? the presiding officer: the senator from illinois. mr. durbin: when it comes to understanding the influence of big-money donors on congressional and presidential campaigns, the numbers don't lie. in 2012, the top 32 donors to super pacs spent as much money as every single small donation to president obama and governor romney combined. the top 32 donors to super pacs spent as much money as every single small donation to president obama and governor romney combined. that means 32 individuals contributed as much as $3. $3.7 million -- as much as 3.7 million americans. in 2012, candidates for both the house and senate raised the majority of their funds from large donations of $1,000 or more. 40% of all contributions to senate candidates came from donors who maxed out at the $2,500 contribution limit, representing just .02% of the american population. the amount of money that special interest dollars and super pacs are willing to spend has grown exponentially since citizens united and it's

warren: i want to thank senator durbin and senator reed for their extraordinary leadership on this important issue. i also rise today to talk about the crushing burden that student debt places on our college students and our economy and call on congress to address it. the core facts are well known to every family in america. in recent decades, college costs have skyrocketed. adjusted for inflation a young person today pays 300% of what her parents paid just 30 years ago. millions of young people, the only way to cover this tuition cost is to take on huge debt. the average student loan balance among 25-year-olds who borrow has grown by 91% in just ten years. total outstanding student loan debt stands at a staggering $1.2 trillion, and it's getting

but today senator durbin's office says they stand by the numbers. you got to love these politicians in washington, what is more, senator durbin is not the first democrat recently called out on misleading obamacare statistics. remember this from o'reilly's interview with the president? >> what we've ended up doing is we have 3 million people signed up so far. we're about a month and a half behind of where we anticipated we wanted to be. we have over 6 million people signed up for obamacare. >> the numbers claimed by the president were given three pinocchios for quote, significant factual errors, as said by "the washington post." >>> also out of washington, a story we could see more of. a treasure trove of documents has surfaced from a woman who hillary clinton once described as a best friend. they say she was the sister hillary never had. the letters appear to be from bill clinton, and already the media is looking at mrs. clinton's comments concerning sex, power, and men who cheat. the former chief investigator for the house oversight committee, and

and senator durbin is next. >> senator durbin, and i will move over to the chair. >> i believe in the early bird rule. >> it is not the early bird. >> thank you very much. senator franken, if i could just follow-up on the line of questioning that senator franken was on. it is very helpful when you take of time to share the details these incidents. as we in congress work hard to strike the right balance between a robust marketplace where we all benefit from the ease and convenience of using credit cards and debit cards, but we also try to make sure we are sufficiently protected in our privacy and against theft. these are delicate choices we have to make, and i think this has been very helpful for us to better understand what is possible, what is desirable, and what the cost and impact would be. , doesould just continue the consumer even believe that the deadline is reasonable? >> i think we're more supportive of having it being expedited even more quickly. >> so you think it is possible to be expedited more quickly, it is just a matter of cost? will cannot speak for everything it would

a distraction christine i do want to ask you about something that durbin has said in two thousand and twelve when the senate was voting on this prominent voice in opposition was senator dick durbin and he said about term limits he said for some members of congress two years in office is too long and for some members of congress twenty years in office is not long enough who should make that decision the constitution in its wisdom says the voters of america make that decision let's stand by that constitution and its language and defeat this sense of the senate resolution so do you think he has a point there and ultimately leaving it up to the people. i think you can trust durbin as far as you can throw and i mean he's just a guy that doesn't represent the people he represents the money the elite a few dozen people that use the two party system to the federal reserve to mainstream media and so on to divide us across the world the nation and conquer and so you know we have the wrong people in office whether we have. term limits or not the people that are in office are representing the pow

and senator durbin is next. >> senator durbin, and i will move over to the chair. >> i believe in the early bird rule. >> it is not the early bird. >> thank you very much. senator franken, if i could just follow-up on the line of questioning that senator franken was on. it is very helpful when you take of time to share the details these incidents. as we in congress work hard to strike the right balance between a robust marketplace where we all benefit from the ease and convenience of using credit cards and debit cards, but we also try to make sure we are sufficiently protected in our privacy and against theft. these are delicate choices we have to make, and i think this has been very helpful for us to better understand what is possible, what is desirable, and what the cost and impact would be. , doesould just continue the consumer even believe that the deadline is reasonable? >> i think we're more supportive of having it being expedited even more quickly. >> so you think it is possible to be expedited more quickly, it is just a matter of cost? will cannot speak for everything it would

dick durbin, senator from illiis, throwow around numbers. play a spot of that and get your reaction. >> 10 million americans havave health insurance totoday who wod not ve had it without the american afford act 10 million. >> the "washington post" gav that four pinocchio noses. we have the numbers and the numbers don't look good. >> a lot of helium in those numbers more than in the hindenburg forwhatick durbin just said. they're cooking the books. these are deep fried numbers. >> which numbers are frd? >> you cannot rely on a poll of a limited group o people, maybe 1,000 people, to extrapolate what's going on in the entire system. the problem is, insurers don't disclose how many have actually been enrolled. another problem, you can say 3.2 million, whatever, enrolled, how many have actuly paid? maybe st a quarter have pd for their insurance. this is not a seamls transition. talking about people being transitioning to more expensive plans or on to medicaid, and those medicaid rolls by the way, the cbo says medicaid roll, expected to go up by

. >> and that was senators kelly ayotte and dick durbin.he didn't mince words, says the president needs to up his game, and helping the eastern european country of ukraine move toward democracy away from russia's grip. russian president vladimir putin has held ukraine hostage time after time turning off the oil pipeline to the country to get what it wants from ukraine's government. both senators ayotte and durbin agree military boots on the ground are not an option and up to 24 hours ago the ukrainian government was not taking our phone calls. an author of the coming revolution, doctor, good to see you today. >> thank you. big question about this. the president needs to up his game, what do you think that she means? >> whatever the president has to do and he has to do many things and some things he should not do, we need to understand the politics of ukraine. this is not a country swinging between the west and the east. there are two cultures inside ukraine, 70% are pro-west, catholic, have a different political culture but still the 30% pr

again, i thank you chairman durbin and mr. cruz and the subcommittee for your support of the committee. >> thank you. let me try to zero in on two or three specifics. the law recognizes that children are to be treated differently than adults. that is why facilities for juveniles are different than prison. we know children are vulnerable to solitary confinement. we heard from a man name john stewart about his short time in solitary confinement. nowhere is the damaging impact of incarceration on vulnerable children more obvious than when it involves solitary confinement. i don't believe juveniles should be in solitary confinement. i know the federal prison has a limit number of juveniles, but what policy and guidance does bop have to ensure the juveniles are not placed in solitary confinement except situations where there are no alternatives to protect staff? >> i recognize the unique need to protect juveniles. we have 62 juveniles in contract facilities. and they have to provide 50 hours of various programs to ensure that indiv

and senator durbin is next. >> senator durbin, and i will move over to the chair. >> i believe in the early bird rule. >> it is not the early bird. >> thank you very much. senator franken, if i could just follow-up on the line of questioning that senator franken was on. it is very helpful when you take the time to share the details of these incidents. as we in congress work hard to strike the right balance between a robust marketplace where we all benefit from the ease and convenience of using credit cards and debit cards, but we also try to make sure we are sufficiently protected in our privacy and against theft. these are delicate choices we have to make, and i think this has been very helpful for us to better understand what is possible, what is desirable, and what the cost and impact would be. if i could just continue, does the consumer even believe that the deadline is reasonable? >> i think we're more supportive of having it being expedited even more quickly. >> so you think it is possible to be expedited more quickly, it is just a matter of cost? >> i will cannot speak for ever

senator dick durbin jumping into the wage rate fray. any enrollment mistakes on healthcare.gov can not be fixed. it is great start for the week. former massachusetts senator scott brown is here. even when they say it is not, it is always about money melissa: wall street investors fleeing today. huge market selloff. the dow is down 326 points. we've got one of our money market wizards on in just a moment to tell you both why and what you should watch out for. but first,. >> it is time for america and the state of illinois to have a serious conversation about raising the minimum wage. melissa: that was senator dick durbin joining president obama calling to raise the federal minimum wage to $10.10 an hour, up from.25 an hour. as the wage war raises on, let's bring in former massachusetts senator scott brown, also a fox news contributor. they claim it will create 140,000 jobs as money circulates through the economy. what do you think? >> i love how they throw around numbers, oh, we'll create this jobe and that job. not surprising dick durbi

durbin: madam president? the presiding officer: the senator from illinois. mr. durbin: i just want to make a brief statement before senator baucus speaks and thank him for his service in the senate, thank him for representing montana and accepting some of the toughest a. signments -- some of the toughest assignments in the united states senate. we have a similarity in our background. we were both inspired to this position by senators who served before us. in your case, senator mansfield, who was an extraordinary leader in the united states senate and an extraordinary man when you consider his contribution to our country, serving in two world wars, if i'm mot not mistaken, perhaps in three different branches of the military. an exceptional service, which ended with an ambassadorship to japan. now senator baucus, inspired by senator mansfield, followed in his footprints in representing the state of montana, serving in one of the highest leadership spots in the united states senate and now off to an ambassadorship, which is singly the most important assignment that

durbin: mr. president? the presiding officer: the senator from illinois. mr. durbin: mr. president, you're new to the senate and we're glad to have you and you will find i think in the course of your senatorial experience that occasionally good legislative ideas come from unexpected places. occasionally they come from phone calls to your office, e-mails and letters, where people tell their stories and from those stories you see the need for a new law, a change in policy. that happened to me 13 years a ago. a korean-american mother called my office in chicago with a problem. her problem was that her daughter, theresa, was about to graduate from high school and had an opportunity to go on scholarship to the manhattan conservatory of music in new york. this was a poor family. mom worked at a dry cleaners. they barely got by. but her daughter had an extraordinary musical tall he want of the shtalent.she was ant even as a senior in high school and this was her chance. as her daughter started to fill o

and it department hold. >> and dick durbin out of illinois released the statement. he is talking about the opposition leader. her support for a constitutional path forward for all ukranians and this goes on with the fact that she will keep the peace there. it is interesting, if the pathways were open, wouldn't the president have this conversation? no respect to dick did your dht bin. but why him? >> he's speaking out because there is a large ukranian- american population in illinois. and it is fair to weigh in. but the u.s. president is trying to figure this out and the other thing our reporter on the ground was saying a moment ago about the opposition leader. no one knows if she is washed up or means what she said. and delivering on what she tells dick did yourbin and others. and the president said here assad must go. who will release assad? >> interesting question. all of these national security challenges are not easy. >> come monday you will be outside of the white house. would you write all of this stuff on a note and give it to the president. >> yeah, we are p

senator durbin said more than half a prison suicide take place in solitary.among the speakers was a former louisiana death row prisoner who spent 15 years on death row in solitary confinement for 23 hours a day before being exonerated in 2012. >> i do not condone with those who have committed serious offenses have done, but i also don't condone what we do to them when we put them in solitary for years on end and treat them as subhuman. as ae better than that civilized society. we should be better than that. i would like to believe the vast majority of the people in the united states would be appalled if they knew what we're doing to inmates in solitary confinement and understood that we are torturing them for reasons that have little, if anything, to do with protecting other inmates or prison guards from them. week, new york state agreed to reform its use of solitary confinement, including banning its use in disciplining prisoners under 18. lawmakers in massachusetts are considering a bill that would ban the shackling of prisoners who are giving birth. tempor

>> well, you can perhaps thank senator richard durbin.here was a durbin amendment which meant banks can charge so much in fees when you use the debit card. the debit card used to get a lot of ref new from character. -- checking account. if they don't get it from that they charge fees. what you see the fee -- gerri: thed to frank? did dodd frank have a role? >> it's part of the dodd frank ability. gerri: let's back up six paces here. dodd frank. we bailed out the bank with taxpayer dollars and now it's coming back to bite us in the butt. we no longer have free checking. how is it we pay both times? >> it's the law of unintended consequences. the idea occur win bin was talking about punishing the banks and helping small savers inspect tend hurts small savers they're the ones paying fees. gerri: let's take a look at the numbers. these monthly service fees are interested for no interest checking account they go from $1.77 in 2009 to $5.54 in 2013. when you look at interest-paying checking account. 2013 $14.64. is there any way out of this? ca

the issue i want to raise with you is that many of us know that senator durbin came out against the trade promotion authority. my question is this. you have raised enormous public debate with the ttip on every kind of issue, pharmaceutical issues, internet issues, every kind of issue. so far the ttip has not generated that kind of opposition. is there a reason why it seems so much smoother for ttip? >> let's try to keep it like that, no? [laughter] it is a different kind of negotiation. then tpire about ttip see. it is a different kind of negotiation. you have several partners. they are very different. in terms of economic development, we have experience in the past that this kind of approach is not easy. we have tried to do so. my predecessor tried to do so. it did not work out. there were huge differences in the economic development. there was also cultural diversity. to test all this in one agreement is difficult. it probably has an impact on the level of the mission. let me be very clear. i hope that this will conclude as soon as possible. i am very much in favor of it. puzzled be par

durbin: mr. president? the presiding officer: the assistant majority leader. mr. durbin: mr. president, before i address the farm bill, i would like to make two other points, and the first is i would like to commend the presiding officer. yesterday, he gave his first speech on the floor of the united states senate. about 20 of us were here and listened carefully, and i'm glad i did. it was time well spent. it was a speech which the presiding officer clearly not only worked on but believed in, and it showed. you addressed the plight of working americans and particularly those who have lost their jobs and the responsibility of this congress and this nation to stand by these families while they are in transition looking for new opportunities. as i sat here and listened and watched as you spoke to this subject addressing specific people that you have met in your state who told you their stories, and i thought to myself i have met quite a few in illinois in like circumstances, and i wish that every member of the senate would do what you have done -- visit the towns, the restaurant

if nancy pelosi and dick durbin, the width in the senate for the democrats, are right, that they willot accept anything other than a path to citizenship, i don't think the house will pass that. i don't think the house will pass that. i think what most immigrants want is to come out of the shadows, raise their families -- >> you don't sound optimistic that there will be an overall bill passed at the summit this year. >> if anything, i think that the house will demand to series of bills. if the senate says, if the bills have to have a special path to citizenship, i think you will see in the house bill probably -- and i cannot predict -- but my impression is that people who involved with the so-called dreamers, they probably will get a special path to citizenship and that is awfully good policy. >> you have been a supporter of governor chris christie. apart from the particulars here, this is not going to end soon. it seems that is clear. whether it should or should not, we are not commenting on it. is this debilitating to his presidential prospects? >> the news media is chasing this arou

and thank you for mentioning sentencing, what senator durbin and lee and paul and ryan and others, who are all working together to try to get something that not only makes sense but can pass. the old one-size-fits-all, we realize, one, it doesn't make us safer, two, it doesn't deter crime. but, three, it means we're spending a huge amount of money on things that don't make us better and takes money away from good law enforcement that we need. last week the privacy and civil liberties oversight board issued a report that concluded the n.s.a.'s phone records program should end and i agree with that. for the recommendations, you and the director of national intelligence will develop in the coming months, but executive action is not enough. i think congress has to act to ensure that this legal theory, that's what i consider legal theory, is not used by any administration to spy on its citizens. now, d.o.j.'s current interpretation of relevance in section 215 could allow the government to acquire virtually any database that might someday down the road for some reason, somehow, find useful.

when you have raul labrador and bobbie scott of virginia, mike lee and nick durbin... >> i'll take it. >> is it possible that laws come off the books? >> i don't know if they come off. they should. certainly prosecutors make decisions not to enforce laws. as you look around the country the easiest is the marijuana laws. prosecutors are enforcing those less and less and in two states they made it okay to smoke. >> there are reforms. >> there's 30 seconds left. if someone followed you or me around we would have committed three fellionies. what did you commit today? >> i had a couple of conversations where i couldn't tell them the whole context. that's a kinded fraud. there's a reform that would insert a requirement of intent in every criminal statute. >> that is all the time for this conversation. thank you to all our guests. until next time, we'll see you all online. >> seeking help from the united states - ukraine's opposition leaders prepare for a meeting with john kerry. >> hello, welcome to al jazeera, live from doha. also ahead on the program - the final push. anti-government prot

the bill was introduced by dick durbin and republican mike lee. what does it do?e plan todayer t minimums and equalize jail terms for people incarcerated under older laws that have now been changed. editor and chief of global grind joins us. thanks for coming back. >> thanks for having me. >> i know you were in washington for this vote last week. you've been working on these issues. why why is there a shift away from some of the harsher mandatory minimum sentences? >> i think there has been tremendous leadership from eric holder and certainly the president on these issues in the past year, year and a half. the attorney general has alluded to making these changes in many speeches he's been give and now you see great bipartisan support. libertarians and mike lee and rapped paul joining sides with dick durbin and patrick leahy to pass theseee seeing good-bye pa start support. >> let me devil's advocate you a little bit before prosecutors are saying mandatory minimums are a valuable way to compel defendants to testify. back in the day they would do it, now they're fac

civic the notion of the deficit coming down is important to durbin the item to suspect a major concerne deficit but the debt. how do we control our economic power and the buck up the numbers there for everyone should look at these numbers because it tells zero as much as it grows slowly we have a problem. >> looking at $21 trillion. >> is not a small number and as a result you lose the margin of safety in he would bankrupt into submission for the chinese and others could have increased flexibility. we want our great craig kids to say we blew it. liz: what does congress need to do? >> in short term they have to make love so we don't have this histrionics and smart people they know what they're doing they just have to get past we will do it. >> regardless you are investing money right now. >> we develop core competency with the research capabilities and those areas are cyclical to last for five years. second to the area of energy and fracking because of the fact we need to reduce our balance pavements i do everything it with regard to horizontal drilling and with the concerns of planet e

the phrase, stupid party, i guess, because the democrats have stolen -- elizabeth warren and dick durbin are pushing half may proposal. the student loan claw back proposal. they're not proposing student loan be dischargeable in bankruptcy. why republicans waited for democrats to do that, i don't know, but it makes sense. it's a good idea no matter who is behind it because right now the incentive has been entirely one sided for universities to scarf up as much federally subsidized loan money as they and can leave students suffering and there's a lot of students suffering. what happens, i predict what we'll see is what we have seen when most quasi-nonmoplyistic changes are made. it was better to be an airline captain before deregulation. it's better to be -- i'm sorry to say this as a personal -- it's better to be a tenured full professor under the system we have had for the last several decades than it is likely to be over the next several decades. but the the comfiness we have had is built on the back of student loan debts and it's unfair and can't go on forever so it won't. thanks. [app

barbara boxer, dick durbin, harkin, blumenthal, marquee, they stand in the way of the first real progress in ending smoking for good. a half million people die yearly from smoking. if e-cigs had been around 30 years ago many of our moms and dads would be alive. vaping means i will live longer which is awesome for me and you. it's the greatest medical device since the clapper and spurred by cash and drama these hacks smear vaping which makes death smile. they need to be taken to a town square and shown what real tar is. boxer claims that e-cigs profit from addicts. no, they profit from quitters. i get protecting the kids, but this is not a gateway drug, it's a quitting device. her office also said there's no way of knowing whether e-cigs are harmful. there is, it's called science, you bozzo. see, this is all phony concern. critics don't care that it's not smoking. only that it looks like smoking. why not ban chameleons or the creepy insects that look like sticks. i hate those things. politicians love outrage. it makes them feel good which trumps doing good so they belch their toxic fumes c

. >> dick durbin talked about we can't keep up with them and he was talking about raising money withyou get a sense that that is that much energy on the right? >> there is not that much energy on the right but a split down the left. they are competing for donor dollars. whether big or inkremental or 20.16. whatever the case may be. democrats are competing for themselves and there is a split in the democratic party between the long- term democrats and the progressive wing. republicans are being more structural about it and growing consistently and they department get themselves in debt last year. democrats have to get a 10 million bail out from duke energy. it shoes they have not raise the the money and the donors are on the sidelines and we have to follow the money in may and june and see where it shoes up. >> let's talk about the over all agenda and reminding of the 19norelection. president clinton lost the house and the senate, do you see the parallels there? >> ladies first. >> presidents typically don't do had in the second midterm election. and that is baked in the cake. i don't

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the mayor and senator durbin announced the bid for the federal defense department's plan. the present limit the official announcement more. the city has received additional funding from the state and private investors totaling $320 million for the project so far. >> chicago could be the silicon valley of the new digital effects ring advance mfg.. >> let's talk about techniques. these new innovative 21st century techniques to give even greater edge to chicago and illinois and to america. >> the research institute will be open by the university of illinois lab. treating students in high tech trade heading digital's lab will create more jobs. >> a 10 year-old boy takes a car for a ride the second time in two weeks. someone nearby was able to grab the keys. he recently got into trouble when he put his 18 month old sister in the car and got 15 mi. before driving into a ditch. looking like a pretty good kid compared to this kid. >> 13 degrees outside. 13 is the current temperature. wind of the northwest at 9 mi.. do points are way down there at 2. don't play any country music wh

dick durbin, number two democrat in the senate.er of the senate armed services committee. and we'll ask our sunday panel whether president obama has badly misjudged vladimir putin. >>> then, the nation's governors come to washington to tackle tough issues like immigration and

. >>> so what do dirk durbin, richard bloomenthol, sherrod brown, barbara boxer, and henry waxman haven common? they're soup ud. i'm sure you knew that, but now it's conclusive. they want to ban e-cigarettes at the capitol. they feel they're no different than regular smokes. notice i said feel and not think. yet they have no research to back the garbage up. they're exposed others may be exposed toiva vapor, water vapo. they're terrified by a substance found in fog. they should also ban nicotine gum, too, which are nontobacco delivery systems that replace deadly smoking. these morons claim it's all about protecting health, but they're too dum to see that e-cigarettes are doing that. ban them, and people will smoke the real thing. maybe that's the point, henry waxman wants me dead. of course, their cowardly defense will be about perceived danger. that way you don't have to deal with real facts. hence our villain is second-hand water vapor, mist. i guess it's time to rethink teapots and saunas. better not steam your pant suit, ms. boxer. think of the children. forget about second hand spo

. >> and the other piece, danny, that i wanted to get to was, senator durbin, a powerful democrat withinenate, has joined up with mike lee, somebody who most know as a tea party republican. they are pushing a bill that would take this whole approach that we're talking about and make it a standard law. deal with that 2010 disparity. and that passed out of the judiciary committee just last week. how important would it be to have the congress involved here? >> it would be enormously important. as you mentioned, ari, this is something that fox news and the tea party should be really behind. think about it. $80 billion will save that kind of money. and more important, government intervention. every study has shown. i would just add one thing. this has not only become a civil right but a human rights watch which we know monitors human rights throughout the world has issued a report in december of 2013. and it really does monitor how much this is being used as a kind of taking away from african-americans as kol lateral consequences. i'm glad to see that congress is about to take it up and it sh

dick durbin, number two democrat in the senate.y ayotte, a member of the senate armed services committee. and we'll ask our sunday panel whether president obama has badly misjudged vladimir putin. >>> then, the nation's governors come to washington to tackle tough issues like immigration and