then it turned out the durham county council which i have to say they always trying to keep the internationallying. i mention these 1920s exchanges with the donbas region of the soffit union. now one of the featured arenas for warfare in ukraine, as you rightly mentioned earlier. but they were always very says that it cultural exchanges. i had gone on a whole of them. then, they approached me and asked if i wanted to come as one of the participants previously in exchange to germany and france and all over the place. to work on an exchange that they had been building up with the region of the russian federation. and so i get this great opportunity to work for that period of time is my first real russianjob, helping real russian job, helping durham real russianjob, helping durham county council in a series of exchanges with this town and region in russia, kind of counterpart. it was pretty is fascinating. it really gave me the job and i was really grateful to be approached with this. i can't say that it was the best above board in terms of applications because it turned out that they approached

assistant to the international office of durham county council. indeed. was that your summer job?y the best, you know, kind of summer job in many respects. i mean, most of my summerjobs were working in restaurants, cleaning in, you know, the local hospital where my dad, you know, worked as a porter and, you know, various other, you know, grab bag of, you know, the typicaljobs that, you know, kind of most people, you know, in the north east of england have and sometimes people's permanentjobsjust to be, you know, very clear as well. and then it turned out that durham county council, which, um, you know, i have to say, they always kept trying to keep the international flag flying. i mentioned these 1920s, um, exchanges with the donbas region of the soviet union. now, of course, you know, one of the featured arenas forwarfare in ukraine, as you rightly mentioned earlier. but they were always very serious about exchanges, cultural exchanges. i'd gone on a whole host of them. and then, you know, they actually approached me and asked me if i wanted to kind of come, as you know, one of t