durkan: ryan? i agree.llprof. calo: it is an interesting principle, but in practice, it will be almost impossible. for two reasons. number one, it will be a free speech problem. your ability to withdraw from the internet is also my inability to talk about you in a certain way. you have to think about that. number two, we have an attorney and audience who works for the internet archive, and there's something called the way back machine that allows you to go back and look at the version of .he site five months ago guess what will be the? the same figurative down. i don't know -- ms. durkan: the same picture? prof. calo: that same picture that you took down. ms. russell: i guess i don't know about about eu politics, but the lobbying arm here -- all those lobbyists registering as you drop the bill in olympia, that just seems -- my idealism has left me and this is cynicism in me -- i don't know how we would pass that. ms. o'connor: we always approach this debate that we are about the first amendment and free speech, an

durkan: ryan, what you think? prof calo: i get beat up a lot on whether privacy disclosure notices work. i wrote a paper a few years ago that was against skepticism and say no to everything. ms. durkan: that is the short version. [laughter] prof calo: i argue that we should be doing more of what nuala said. where it is built into the product, like it is in so. there is a lot of opportunity for that. i also think that there is a lot of opportunity to have a privacy disclosure for the most -- the more sophisticated entity that is very full. so, for the cdt, the ftc, the journalist, and then have more visceral notice. i think we should be tracking a two track notice. i will say that at the end of the day, and i hope we talk about this more, it is really about asymmetry. fact that the company knows an unbelievable amount about you and you don't know hardly anything about them. is thereot only information asymmetry, but there is asymmetry about the asymmetry. they know that they know more about you and you cannot even

please join me in welcoming jenny durkan. [applause] ms. durkan: thank you very much. thank you for that great introduction, but mostly for your leadership in this space. you have been a true national leader on many of these issues. and we will not be tracking you all night. [laughter] just most of the night. what a great pleasure it is to be here at town hall. this is one of the best forms we have in seattle to talk about these things. i could not have been more honored to moderate these forums on what is one of the most critical issues that we face as a society. i think that the intersection of technology in all parts of our lives will raise fundamental questions about the role the privacy plays in our lives and what is important to protect. i cannot give a better panel to do this with. to my immediate right is ryan calo. he comes by way of stamford and is probably one of the leading people in the areas of privacy and robotics. just an exceptional phot thinker. when i was u.s. attorney and i wanted to turn to the people i looked to in academia to figure out those com

please join me in welcoming jenny durkan. [applause] ms. durkan: thank you very much. thank you for that great introduction, but mostly for your leadership in this space. you have been a true national leader on many of these issues. and we will not be tracking you all night. what a great pleasure it is to be here at town hall. this is one of the best forms we have in seattle to talk about these things. i could not have been more honored to moderate these forums on what i think is one of the most critical issues that we face as a society. i think that the intersection of technology in all parts of our lives will raise fundamental questions about the role the privacy plays in our lives and what is important to protect. i cannot think of a better panel to do this with. to my immediate right is ryan calo. he is a professor at the university of washington law school. he comes by way of stanford and is probably one of the leading people in the areas of privacy , but also in robotics. just an acceptable -- just an exceptional thinker. when i was u.s. attorney and i wanted to

durkan: will give you an internship. professor calo: i think as a privacy law nerd, i should tell you that there is a back-and-forth that happened early on between pvacy scholars. one reviewed the others book, and she gave it a slightly negative review, saying, where are the dead bodies? you are talking about the digital person, but what about people posh lives? -- people's lives? i feel like we are seeing more and more dead bodies. some of the bodies are dead by their own hand because of something they did and they kill themselves. other people are dead because of drone strikes and other reasons. information is power. sometimes that power gets abused in violent ways. i appreciate your point. i recommend that back-and-forth as a student of privacy law. ms. durkan: everybody gets to leave with one thought. >> i am still the optimist on the panel. we should be worried about the physical, the blurring of the lines between online presence and real-life presence and the risk that you are sharing. despairing of congress, i dou

i@please join me in welcoming jenny durkan. [applause] >> thank you very much. and thank you, ira, for the great introduction but mostly for your leadership in this space. you really have been a true leader nationally on many of these issues. and we're not going to be tracking you all night. just most of the night. what a great pleasure it is to be here at town hall. i think this is one of the best forums we have in seattle for this kind of event, for people to come together to talk about what matters to them. i couldn't be more honored to be asked to moderate this forum what i think is probably one of the most critical issues we face as a society. i think that intersection of technology and all parts of our lives is going to raise fundamental questions about what role privacy plays in our lives and what is important to protect and i can't think of a better panel to do this with. to my immediate right is ryan calo. many of you probably know him. ryan is a professor at the university of washington law school. comes by way of stanford and probably one of the leadi