>> the one example i am aware of helicopter pilot michael durrant in somalia who was held captive by was a quiet arraignment in with yo interstates regained durrant's freedom and functionally and exchange for individuals that were captured in the same operation. >> any characterization of this is to go shooting with terrorists misses the fact we were and are at war. he is a member of our military fighting that war. on the gitmo piece, is it your opinion at the end 2014, we consider that the end of facilities because we will still have 10,000 troops there, but there was hostilities, these five would have had to be released as the end of hostilities. was that the department's opinion, do they feel the opposite? >> sir, the way i would answer that is we believe we have under domestic law specifically the a mof and under and nest all of the law of armed conflict we have authority to hold and had the authority to hold these five at guantanamo bay as enemy which rents. there will come a point in time where the armed conflicts we are engaged with with the taliban and al qaeda and their asso