so to speak. >> 2:00 for dustin paul. >> the person who visits paul the most is the woman who helpedse him. his grandmother sheila. >> i'm sure you hear this from every grandmother, but he is a real good-hearted kind person and never was in trouble his whole life. never even got in a fight in school. but i think basically there was a substance abuse periodically through the years. that's what caused this behavior. >> me and my grandmother are really close. she's like a second mom to me, basically. my grandmother. >> we've always been very close. very close. >> though his grandmother has arrived in person to visit -- >> there he is. hey, dusty. >> even at the jail visitation is conducted through a video link between the housing unit and a visitor center. >> so here's the news of the week. right after i left for a few hours i started choking really hard, like i couldn't breathe. so i went to emergency, and i was there for four days. >> hmm. >> so they diagnosed me with pneumonia, c.o.p.d., congestive heart failure. >> really? >> yeah. they're going to monitor me real closely. >> that i

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