(applause) >> i don't see dwayne jones. dwayne, are you here? and kim forgot to introduce her had you band and her dad. dad, raise your hand. husband, raise your hand. so, we do have a lot of men in the audience. you just can't see them. they are supporters. (applause) >> okay, back to this. i don't see dwayne. but these three people, among others, are the ones that i call on -- [laughter] >> to help me. i don't care what the question or the task too big. they just say, yes, i'll do it. and no, you should go this way. yes, we should handle this way. okay, we would do it this way. they both were meet the expert in the industry. they facilitated a class with the women owned business group and they were amazing, absolutely amazing. the things that they said, some of the things i had said, they reinforced them, but they went one step further. they told them tips and techniques how to avoid the pitfalls in government, which are quite a few. and olivia has been an engineer, starting with the program chapter 12 d a long time ago, and she grew so she so