[laughter] so cheatham stood in for solomon dweck. dweck is a bad witness. by definition all informants are bad witnesses. they wouldn't be called rats otherwise. they're bad witnesses. so the way it always works is the government, the feds try to convince the jury don't believe the guy, believe the video. he's not a person in this case, he's just a vessel for carrying a camera. that's roughly what it is. and, of course, the good defense lawyers, all defense lawyers, try to rough up the informant, say how can you believe this guy? he's a crook, he's a criminal, he's a swindler, he turns on his own community, his own family. they're always flawed. what happened, we think, with smith was dweck had gotten beaten up in the suarez case, the weakest of the government's cases. and they benched dweck in the hopes of mixing it up with cheatham. >> calling an audible. >> they called an audible. they're used to beating up dweck. everybody is impressed with what cliply did to dweck on the stand, no question about it. but in terms of the future of this case, it's really