dwight eisenhower was his assistant. identifying, organizing, and creating memorial sites in europe among his other duties. putting together a guidebook for american tourists that wanted to visit world war i battlefields. this is the project that took my father and grandfather on the trip that we went on in 1999. dwight eisenhower had to perform reconnaissance. my grandmother considered that very faithful. at this point, he is beginning to understand command under the tutelage of foxconn are with operations under pushing. he understood how commanders thought. he went on to serve douglas macarthur. so he studies under douglas macarthur and so forth. and so his education begins. i would say that american officers perform. we had dinner years ago in the mid-80's and my book was about to come out and we were talking about the world war ii -- i thought it would be impossible for america to ever return to europe and fight in the war there. among other things, the war never happened. the people would never allow governments to

>> absolutely. >> so dwight scanned the file, just a quick look. was obvious that was something that just wasn't right. >> remember what the trial attorney said about the black bathrobe, too bad they didn't tested for gunshot residue? dwight, with his years in law enforcement lit up when he saw that. they must have tested the robe. >> it should've been tested for gunshot residue all the way up to the right sleeve. >> sure, if he fired the gun there would've been gunshot residue. >> no such reporting existed for the testing of that sleeve and that robe. >> it did not make sense. the started working with lawyer lindsey phoenix who requested copies of all the crime lab reports. >> we've got a letter saying here you go, here is everything we have. it included every test except the one i was looking for. >> but, it had to be there. so lindsay when in person to the state highway patrol. >> i said i wanted to examine every piece of evidence you have, and i bought a video camera and a cell phone and i photographed everything. trying to be in conspicuous. i

a memoir of life with dwight d. eisenhower, 1961 to 1960. talks about his leadership in the military and as president of the forces that change him. exploring the american story, watch american history tv, saturdays on c-span two. and find a full schedule on your program guide, or watch online anytime at c-span.org, slash history. president awarded the medal of honor to four soldiers who fought in the vietnam war. this took place in the eastern room of the white house. bergeron ♪ ♪ ♪ ladies and gentlemen, the president of the united states. . . . it or>> mr. president, distingud guests, the writer and sacred scripture mister president, distinguished guests, the writer of sacred scripture declares be strong and courageous. do not be afraid. do not be discouraged. for i will be with you wherever you go. ladies and gentlemen, please join me as we mark this very special occasion in a word of prayer. grace just and merciful lord, you are the giver of life, the igniter of faith, provider of hope, and author of love. mighty one, oh inches of, days

[applause] >> specialist five dwight w birdwell. attention to orders. president of the united states of america, authorized by act of congress march 3, 1863 has awarded in the name of congress the medal of honor to specialist five dwight w birdwell of the united states army for conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at risk of its own life above and beyond the call of duty. specialist five dwight w birdwell distinguishing self with acts of gallantry and intrepidity above and beyond the call of duty with his division in the republic of vietnam on 31, january 1968. the trip was ordered to move south to repel an enemy attack on an airbase. as the personnel approached the airy base a became under intense enemy fire from a building on its right. unbeknown to the troop, it had driven directly into an enemy force of three battalions. they tried to push through the attack but the explosions were blocking the way forward. see troop came under heavy enemy fire from both sides of the road. specialist birdwell upon seeing this went to his aid. under intense enemy fi

is dwight clark day. still ahead.ports radio host joe schatsky to talk about how the catch plays into niners history and we're also looking ahead at that upcoming season for the new quarterback at the home, trey lance at a raging fire in cuba continues to send a big black plume of smoke into the atmosphere. and a big search right now for missing firefighters does continue in cuba will tell you what started that oil storage tanker fire that oil storage tanker fire right after what's your favorite live event? a rockin concert? an action-packed game? whatever it is, enter for a chance to win tickets in the 5-hour energy live sweepstakes. for rules and how to enter visit 5helive.com. well well well, what have we here? a magical place... that's lookin' to get scared! (laugh) (laughter) halloween time is back in disneyland and disney california adventure parks! 5-hour energy. halloween time is back in disneyland because the open road is calling. and you'll need to feel alert and energized to go the distance. go with 5-hour

humble heir to the respect and the affection all peoples felt the lincoln such a man is general ike dwight d eisenhower the man from abilene. never in history have so many americans known so much about the very essence of one man a hundred million americans. know eisenhower the way, you know a neighbor. we know him by heart and why do we cheer for him? not because he is a general but because instinctively we believe in you we hail him as a hometown boy who is all the best about america. his roots are in the heartland main street usa. i come here first to thank you. to say the proudest thing i can claim is that i am from abilene. i want to speak first of the dreams of a barefoot boy. frequently they are to be a streetcar conductor. or he sees himself as the town policeman. above all he may reach the position of locomotive engineer. but always in his dreams. is that day when finally he comes home? comes home to our welcome from his own hometown the wheat fields of kansas claim ike is a native son. cotton and cattle state of texas state first claim hard for the railroad tracks in denison, tex

eastern on the presidency president dwight eisenhower's grandson, david, author of the book going home to glory a memoir of life with dwight d eisenhower in 1951 -- 1959 talks about ike's leadership in the military and the forces that shaped him. exploring the american story. watch american history tv saturdays on cspan2 and find a full schedule on your program guide for watch online anytime at c-span.org/history. ♪ >> recently on book tv author interview program after words, republican south dakota governor talked about her life and political career. here's a portion of the interview. >> south dakota, i think for a democrat to be elected, even for republicans you need to be a little bipartisan and work together. people think it is very conservative and it's really not. in fact my last race when iran for governor just three and half years ago i only won by three points. and it was against a guy who was a bernie sanders supporter. it is very much a state that can go back and forth. how was the majority leader. very influential. i cared about farm bills, i cared about tax reform. as some

dwight clark day. obviously we're going to see a lot of this because the play was so famous is also known as dwight clark day he work jersey number 87 during his eight year career with the team. he is famously known for the catch that we're showing you hear over and over again because i could never get tired of looking at it. joe montana. to dwight clark in the touchdown that would send the 49ers two super bowl 16 in 1981 during training camp. yesterday, the 49ers took time to honor the franchise legend. and welcome to the nine. you know, uh i met dwight clark. he came towards state. he's come here before and he drew me a little. uh, caption of the play . i want to show it to you. look wow, druitt, you know, you know , i'm not like a huge football fan. but even i know, you know the significance of dwight clark legacy and you can't grow up in the bay area for the last 30 years and not know dave clark, joe montana the great, so that is a real uh, that's a must be a treasured possession of years. it's han

such a man's general ike, dwight d. eisenhower, the man from abilene. never in history have so many americans known so much about the very essence of one man. >> 100 million americans know eisenhower the way you know a neighbor. we know him by heart. >> why do we care for him? not because he is a general but because, instinctively, we believe in him. we hail him as the hometown boy who is all the best about america. he grew up in the heartland, main street, usa. >> i come here first to thank you, to say a proudest thing i can claim is that i am from abilene. [applause] i want to speak first of the dreams of --. frequently, they are to be a streetcar conductor, where he sees himself as the town policeman. above all, he may reach the position of locomotive engineer. but always in his dreams is that day when finally he comes home. comes home to a welcome from his own hometown. >> the fields of kansas claim ike as a native son. >> but the cattle state of kansas, hard to the railroad tracks of deafness in, texas, that's where he was born. on the red river wa

to glory, mmr of dwight d. eisenhower from 19 621 to 1969, talked about his leadership in the military and the courses that shape them. exploring the american story. watch american history tv saturdays on c-span2, and find the full schedule on your program guide, or watch online anytime at c-span got word/history. >> there are a lot of places to get political information, but only at c-span do you get it straight from the source. no matter where you are from or where you stand on the issues, c-span is an american network, unfiltered, unbiased, word for word. if that happens here or here or here or anywhere that matters, america is watching on c-span. powered by cable. book tv every sunday on c-span2 futures leading authors discussing their latest nonfiction books. at 8:00 p.m. eastern, herbert hoover biographer details the life and legacy of the former president, his journey through polished -- politics and his leadership during the great depression. in 9:00 p.m. eastern, tim miller and author of why we did it,

. >> dwight david eisenhower was one of seven sons of deeply religious parents. the duchess, is to move twice and bought the bible with them. no matter where judy take him, he'd always like to get back to home cooking. even in paris, his kitchen was kansas. >> his hobbies keep him close to the earth and to freshwater. fishing with his farmer boy's first, love golf is i do love. only with fisher stories does ike exercise a fisherman's right to stretch the truth a little. golly, you should've seen the one that got away, three feet long. >> if you ask eisenhower why he has dedicated the rest of his life to the service of america instead of retiring, to take it easy on his little farm in ginsburg, he'll point to a picture of this baby. a chip off the old block. he tell you -- >> i want my grandson and yours to grow up in a free america. >> he's proud of his grandchildren, there are three of them now. you can tell that eisenhower believes that are real, first line of defense is the family. and an old-fashioned, well understood american idea. admired in the rest of the

dwight jr. kevin: hey! so how was it? i mean, the sex with jan.feelings of a lady are involved. women reach their sexual peak at whatever age jan was last week. i mean, it was like making love with a wild animal. but not like a cougar, like you might think. it was, uh, like a swarm of bees. bees that just find something wrong with every hotel room. nothing wrong with being a gentleman.

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the great dwight clark. august 7th or 87, which was dwight clark's number during his eight years with the 49ers. it's now been more than four years since clark died from lou gehrig's aziz and players on the roster zey that his legacy lives with the 49ers even after his death. it's an honor. it's a blessing to work for the niners just because of all the rich history that you have here, not every nfl team. is in that position to have you know so many legends. dwight clark played for the 49ers from 1979 to 1987. and this moment is the one that fans of the football world will never forget. it simply called the catch. job montana throwing to dwight clark scoring a touchdown that was sent to 49ers, the super bowl 16 and 1981 dwight clark's number. 87 was retired by the 49ers in 1988. never get told. no and i think joe didn't joe montana is jokingly call it the throw the throw the catch. i think both both were incredible. so well, you know, talk about a play that changed the course of a franchise. yeah. because bef

.: humorless, obsessed with the rules -- you are dwight. >> i am not dwight. even know who that is. >> steve c.: classic dwight. teve c. >> steve c.: hmm? are you stealing from the supply closet? >> steve c.: hmm mmm. open your mouth. >> steve c.: paper clips work better when they're wet. >> steve c.: all i can be is sorry and that is all that i am. >> i'm afraid you still don't mean it. >> steve c.: yeah, i wasn't really feeling that either. sorry. can we take that from the top? >> again, please. >> steve c.: ( in deep southern accent ) all i can be is sorry! and that is all that i am! and as god is my witness, i'll never go hungry again! >> again, and no more accents. >> steve c.: je suis desole. >> steve c.: okay, some of the numbers are going to elicit sort of a fear response. >> i am aware. i know how to refine the numbers. >> steve c.: do you know why 6 is afraid of 7? >> i do, actually. >> steve c.: okay. because 7, 8, 9. >> if it weren't forbidden by the handbook, i would kill you. >> steve c.: i believe that humor is a great motivator, and i'm pretty

dwight clark! >> yeah, it was a great moment. wonderful moment for me. and on that game, it was so good feeling to me that when i got in the airplane, i said, you know, i quit. i quit football. and i made up my mind that was such a good game to walk away on. i didn't want to do another game, so i didn't. >> scully was remembered at tonight's giants-dodgers game at oracle park. bottom four, joey bart with a runner on. admire that shot, joey. into the giants' bull pen to cap off a five-run inning, eighth inning we go. dodgers open the floodgates. mo mo mookie betts down the line. the dodgers win their sixth straight over the giants, 9-5 winners. >>> darrin ruf waved good-bye. they received j.d. davis and were given try minor leaguers in the trade. other moves, matthew boyd traded to the mariners. two weeks after signing trevor rosenthal, they sent him to the brewers, boyd and rosenthal never pitched for the giants because of injuries. the padres sure aren't stingy anymore. how about the blockbuster trade san diego pulled off today. the once mizer-minded fr

america, dwight david eisenhower. >> ♪ ♪ ♪ a few days before protests tragic death comes to presidentf. kennedy, he in the first lady are the picture of happiness. their children, john junior and caroline or to mark their birthdays after the president returns from a trip to texas. arriving in dallas on the morning of the fateful day, he and mrs. kennedy are greeted by vice president johnson and the mayor of dallas. john f. kennedy has been president for two months to years ten months and two days. they're riding the familiar presidential limousine. because the weather has turned fair the transparent double top has been removed. from a fifth floor window, at 12:30 pm, come the rifle shots that bring death to president kennedy and seriously wound governor connally of texas. 29 minutes later, the 35th president of the united states lies dead in a nearby hospital. the presidential limousine bears the marks of violent death. flowers that mrs. kennedy carried from the airport are twisted and torn. shock and disbelief give way to tears. ♪ ♪ ♪ the nation and the world's reaction is one of bew

comments incorporated, emerson electric and church & dwight. church & dwight is interesting because the stock is down 14% year-to-date but this is a pick. why? >> they're all down about 15 or 20%. the valuations there all look good. they would all be what we consider to be a-quality companies. they are a-quality companies or f-quality companies. the fs were winning for 2021 but now the a-quality companies are starting to win. they're still cheap in our view. we think they're trading at a discount where they will be in the future. when you look at church & dwight just a long track record of real consistent turning out profits. they have supply chain issues like everybody he will. we think they will turn it around. cummins a great company essentially known for the diesel engines. they have a skunk works project, working out electric potential for the future should that come to pass. ultimately that is a great industrial company. it will be around for a long time, powering transportation in this country which we need desperately. cheryl: sure. >>

she played a decisive role in helping dwight eisenhower when the republican presidential nomination. and she led the organization democrats for eisenhower that helped carry, texas and other southern states giving eisenhower his victory. in 1953 shortly after eisenhower was inaugurated. he appointed oviedo as the secretary of the newly established department of health education and welfare more better known as agw no longer existing now, it's been split up. thus she became only the second woman in us history to serve on a presidential cabinet the first being of course, francis perkins as secretary of hew she oversaw the development and the distribution of the sauk polio vaccine and she got into as much trouble as falchi over the current vaccines. it was quite a controversy. she resigned in 1955 to return to houston because of will's declining health as i say there was 27 years difference in their ages will died in 1964 and the city of houston named its municipal airport and his honor hobby airport continues to carry his name today. some of you may have passed through there at some poi

dwight clark! >> yeah, it was a great moment. a wonderful moment for me. and on that game, it was so good feeling to me that when i got on the airplane, i said you know, i quit. i quit football. i made up my mind that was such a good game to walk away on, i didn't want to do another game. so i didn't. >> and speaking of the 49ers, we're just nine days out from the kickoff to the preseason. the niners take on the packers on august 12. exec kpix 5 is your niners station. woo have special coverage. >>> can is the industry keep up with demand now? the challenge for hotels still struggling with staffing. >>> coming up all new at 6:00, interim district attorney brooke jenkins taking more steps to try to crack down on drug use and dealing. the new harder approach she is taking to crime in the city. >>> plus, electric bikes left abandoned all over one bay area city. how they got there and what's being done about them. >>> and the consequences anils e mornings are our time, and i couldn't let stiff joints slow me down. so i started taking osteo bi-flex every day be

and just five weeks until the niners open the regular season got a camp port on dwight clark day and bay bridge blast. yes going deep twice wasn't enough of the giants off a late a's rally will tell you in sports. seen this ad? it's not paid for by california tribes. it's paid for by the out of state gambling corporations that wrote prop 27. it doesn't tell you 90% of the profits go to the out of state corporations. a tiny share goes to the homeless, and even less to tribes. and a big loophole says, costs to promote betting reduce money for the tribes, so they get less. hidden agendas. fine print. loopholes. prop 27. they didn't write it for the tribes or the homeless. they wrote it for themselves. of art is on display right now in san francisco, but you better be quick if you want to see it in person. dance sculptor. jim denison has been working on his latest project at ocean beach since friday. it's a labor of love for the accomplished artist huge eight-foot high mounds of sand have been arranged like the center of a sunflower. donovan says he has timed this latest installation. ju

to glory among more of life with dwight d eisenhower 1951 -- 1959 talks about his leadership in the military and the forces that shaped him. exploring the american story watch american history tv saturdays on cspan2 and find a full schedule on your program guide or watch online anytime at c-span.org/history. ♪ >> joining is now is journalist and author glenn will talk about his new book democracy in just a minute. we are at the libertarian freedom festival in las vegas. and you are here. is there an oddity there? what there is definitely an oddity. that is obvious i've long been as being for this particular conference. at the same time very early on what might focus was concerns over bush/cheney executive power theories the sampling of possible liberties. i always had an audience not just on the left but also libertarians well. the first event i ever did the second was at the cato institute read that gives you a flavor of always managed at these various in my audience. >> host: how do you do that as with the left in the right meat. >> i think there are more places were left andig ri

and at 2 pm eastern, on the presidency, president dwight eisenhower's grandson, david, author of they, a memory of life with -- talks about ike's leadership in the military and as president and the forces that shaped him. exploring the american story. watch american history tv saturdays on c-span two, and find the full schedule on your program guide or watch online anytime at c-span dot org slash history. >> author john avlon talked about lincoln as a peacemaker in the plans he had for a post civil war america. here's some of what he had to say. >> one of the questions i often get is, you know, 16,000 lincoln books, as you well know, why you? why now? why this? i found a quote from general lucia's clay, who was the general who led the occupation of germany after the second world war. he was actually the son of a georgia senator born three decades after the civil war. the reporter asked him, what guided your decisions at that notably a successful occupation, the rarest of things? and he said, i try to think that abraham lincoln would've done for the staff if he had lived. in that quot

he loved dwight clark because of 87 , of course, and it was his birthday and 87.nyway, if you're heading on out there, lads, sunshine and the temperature tomorrow 81 degrees at levi stadium. of course, the proceeds go to the 49ers fund as well as the golden heart phone for dwight clark. what a great day it's going to be out there at the football field. as they celebrate a hero. all right, look at the cloud deck over the estuary right now, where the current air temperature pretty much around the bay 65 degrees. we do have the north bay temperature stacking up in the low sixties. it is, however, 64 in american canyon peninsula numbers belmont. good morning 64 degrees. we do have some cloud cover and foster city but that will be clearing and how about santa cruz? partly cloudy conditions today it's 65 going up to the low seventies are numbers from 63 in pacifica. 2 73 degrees in vallejo and dan martinez to 83 degrees and throughout the tri valley outside number 85. we still will feature your full four day forecast that's still coming up with a couple of minutes. fran

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and at 2 pm eastern on the presidency president dwight eisenhower's grandson david, author of the book owing home to glory: a memoir of life with dwight d eisenhower 1951 to 59 talks about ike's leadership in the military and his presence and the forces that shaped them. exploring the american story. what american history tv saturdays on c-span2 and find a full schedule on your program guide or watch anytime online at c-span.org/history. >> joining us now is journalist and author gglenn greenwald. will be talking about his newest book securing democracy in just a minute but direct glenn greenwald, where at the libertarian freedom festival in las vegas and you're here. is there an oddity there? >> there definitely is an oddity that's obvious that i'm perceived as associated with the left and i don't think there's a lot of people for whom that's true at this conference but early on when i began writing about politics my focus was concerns over bush cheney executive power theories and the trampling of civil liberties. i always had an audience not just on the left but also libertarians as

today is known as dwight clark day. he wore number 87 famously made the catch.hat jump starred to a dynasty five weeks from today, 49ers open up their regular season in chicago. it is day 10. friday night, preseason home opener against packers. there's nick bosa looking good. brandon ayuk having a great camp. both me and trey lance continuing to builds on the chemistry they develop training in the off-season. >> i've been saying it since the whole spring, summer. he was locked in this off-season. hef had to separate himself and become a better player. he's killing guys right now. i know he's going continue to do that. >> best thing -- he walked on to the practice field he's still the same way. >> he couldn't talk to us the same way. we don't worry about him at all really. >> abc7 sports is sponsored by river rock casino. >> chris, thank you. a new twist out of south mateo county. why the criminal case against the bill may soon be tossed out. >> four murders in albuquerque, new mexico. and the one thing all four victims has in common that wanna help kids get thei

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ah-- here's dwight. what the-- oh, man. what do you think happened?les. [gasps] oh, no, no, no, no. it wasn't me. we've got to find luwanda at the alcohol club. aww. [screams] [thud] [theme music] - puppet. - cool. for your kids? yeah, it's weird being away from them. never done this before. dwight: attention, dunder mifflin group. proceed outside. the vehicle is waiting. seats have been assigned. shotgun goes to ryan. congratulations, ryan. i need to make nellie see me as a leader today. first impressions get locked in forever. when i first met pam, she said something that slightly rubbed me the wrong way. since then, i've loved working with pam. and she's frankly wonderful. but i hate her. i'll have a bottle of the antacid. also, i want to get a souvenir for my son, but his mother doesn't acknowledge my paternity. do you have anything for that? also, i want it to have a florida feel. what is he like? power. ok. and this one is, ha, don't see too many museums around here. ok, twiggy, that's enough. get in that car. hey, are you ok? i'm fine, ok? it's

hey, dwight. wanna haze the new guy? who, me? us. absolutely, i do. ok, ok. here. so the next time he goes to the bathroom, i'll distract him. you take that. - ok, yeah. i know what to do. ok. oh, yeah. oh, that's great. shh. (yelling) aah! aah! welcome to the club, pig! ah-ha-ha-ha-ha! no, dwight! ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! aah! no, it does matter who ends up sitting next to pam when i'm gone. people around you are basically who you end up spending your life with. i mean, because of where my desk was, i spent all those years looking at pam. and i fell in love. so that stuff matters, definitely does. >> announcer: coming to you from new york city, the only city in america, it's "the daily show." tonight: they really got him, again. the goat hangs it up. and idris elba! this is "the daily show," with trevor noah. ( cheers and applause ) >> trevor: what's going on, everybody? welcome to "the daily show." i'm trevor noah. thank you so much for tuning in. thank you for coming out in person. wow! this is electric! this is great! this is great! this is amazing. all right, take a se

kennedy looked so different from dwight eisenhower. [inaudible] all those four presidents were in the top ten of all presidents. this was for a very, very different reason. by god, if you love your country and you give us your very best, things are probably going to wind up pretty well for the american people. >> i think the microphones are working their way around here. >> thank you very much for this. it is a wonderful discussion. mark, your books are great. your four part series with lbj is great. a wonderful occasion. two questions. number one -- we all learned that character is primary. it is a very important thing. it is very odd that kennedy's character of public service was so exemplary and so inspiring. his personal character was not so exemplary acts so inspiring. there seems to be a total split between, you know, public service that he did and the values that he had and the private values that he had, which were pretty despicable if you look back at it now. the second point is that you are absolutely right that the -- marty