and what was it about dwight eisenhower's leadership allowed fdr to select him for these incredibly important roles in joining us today to answer that question is don the director of the eisenhower library rated welcome pretty. >> hi paul and what it like to be here with you today. >> those qualities that eisenhower presented the main roosevelt to sam and their nation in north africa and then for the invasion of normandy and d day and what was it about eisenhower really attracted fdr right. >> i think it makes sense to point out that amazing relationship and fox connor, took him under his wings and helped him develop some of his military lessons are his military knowledge. fox connor mentionson eisenhower to general marshall and general marshall introduce eisenhower to fdr as well. >> and marshall was the chief tf staff at the point where they had to the leader for the invasion was always going to be marshallll but it ended up being eisenhower's and they had a complicated relationship. >> but i don't think that fdr felt that he could do without marshall in washington at that time and

was it about dwight eisenhower's need leadership to allow fdr to select him for these incredibly important roles in joining us today, to answer the question is a director of the eisenhower library welcome. >> thank you what a delight to be here with you today. >> so anything, what was the qualities that eisenhower presented made resident choose him first for african and then for the dj normandy and what was about eisenhower the really attracted fdr. >> i think it makes sense to point out that eisenhower had an amazing relationship with general fox connor, and fox connor took him under his wing and helpedel him develop some of his military lessons there is military knowledge and fox connor mention eisenhower to general marshall and general marshall introduce eisenhower to fdr as well tonight will marshall was chief of staff and of course and choose a leader for the invasion but it ended up being eisenhower not marshall so they accommodated relationship rated. >> but i don't think that fdr felt that he could do without marshall in washington at that time and marshall was incredible administr

dwight eisenhower's leadership allowed fdr to select him for these incredibly important roles in joining us today to answer that question the director of the eisenhower library. welcome to. >> high and it's delight to be here with you today. >> so anything, what was the qualities that eisenhower that made choose him first for the africa and then the day and what was it about eisenhower really attracted fdr pretty; think of it makes sense to point out that eisenhower had an amazing relationship the general honor and fox connor took him under his wing and helped him develop some of his military lessons or his military knowledge. and he mentioned him to general marshall and general marshall introduced eisenhower to fdr as well pretty. >> and marshall was the chief of staff and of course, president roosevelt how to choose a leader for the invasion and its marshall but he ended up being eisenhower so they have a complicated relationship pretty. >> yes, i do but i don't think that fdr felt that he could do without marshall in washington at that time and marshall was an incredible administrator

one of the questions we're going to ask is about the relationship between fdr and dwight eisenhower and specifically what was it about eisenhower's leadership that allowed fdr to select him for these incredibly important roles. joining us today to answer that question is dawn hammond. welcome. >> what a delight to be here with you today. >> so what do you think? what was the quality of eisenhower that made roosevelt choose him first for the his inveighs of south africa -- invasion. what was it about eisenhower that really attracted fdrsome. >> i think it makes sense to point out that eisenhower had an amazing relationship with general fox connor. and fox connor took him you should his wing and help -- under his wing and helped him develop some of his military lessons or his military knowledge. fox connor mentioned eisenhower to general marshall, and general marshall introduced eisenhower to fdr as well. >> marshall was the chief of staff and, of course, the point when roosevelt had to choose a leader for the d-day invasion, it ended up being eisenhower, so they had a complicated relatio

dwight eisenhower's leadership allowed fdr to select him for these incredibly important

again, to go back to dwight eisenhower the military industrial complex is a huge factor in this.unt of money spent in the system, put into the system is also by design meant to draw votes to those in congress. you know that every part of a military tank or airplane or battleship is made in a blue state and a red state. when you are getting that kind of money pumped into your districts, into your states, it becomes harder to say i don't want that going to the employees and to the people working in those factories making those weapons. it doesn't necessarily reflect how those weapons are going to be used because you can talk about the f-35 fighter jet, which has been a complete waste of money and a boondoggle according to the pentagon itself, by the way, that's $1.5 trillion that went down the drain to build a weapon system that is barely usable at this point. you have to wonder whether or not it is purely because of politics and internal pressures as opposed to what is actually producing on the outcome side of it. as i said yesterday, i made this point, you know, unfortunately the

would say if you say there is a deep state in the united states which is nothing more than what dwight eisenhowerned about a permanent power faction in washington that rules the country regardless of the outcome of elections, they would tell you you are crazy, you are conspiracy theory, even as you are cheering for the classic definition of the deep state in the first place. you have to be a conspiracy theorist or incredibly gullible not to believe that exists. >> tucker: here is the evidence that won me over. famously people say you're not allowed to criticize, what is the one group republicans and democrats never criticize, the national security state. republicans are happy to go after the irs or the education department, i can't remember the last time a republican leader meaningfully criticize the doj and the pentagon, democrats are exactly the same, that tells you everything, doesn't it? >> the amazing thing is for whatever you want to point to in donald trump's comportment and governance which i think are several valid ones, one of the most important things that he did was he deviated from t

people like george marshall, dwight eisenhower.t of it is lots of military people, he had a caution about the use of military force. he understood it was not an abstraction. he also had a real appreciation of diplomacy, and he saw these tools not in tension, but rather to be used in tandem. i've mentioned that powell was someone with people skills, was comfortable trying to persuade people, was comfortable rethinking his positions, so in that sense, he was very natural in his diplomacy. it actually lent him great flexibility. it was hard to say about thi combat veteran that somehow he was soft. judy: michael, you were talking to us about what came to be known as the powell doctrine. >> powell, the formidable figure he was, powell's views were not without some controversy and debate. it really grew out of the war in vietnam. he thought if the u.s. were to use military force, the force needed to be decisive. very often, that was interpreted as overwhelming, but at a minimum, it had to be decisive and have public support. it was a goo

wonder if he was a hero of yours, it's always made it a lot easier to be a republican because dwight eisenhower was there. in june of 52 pretty. >> yes, i was there sitting in the rain and avoid eisenhower and people in kansas and a local paper, he was a moderate republican. he coined the term and eisenhower was republican and you want to be in eisenhower publication be whatever or who the right winners for those days maybe taft i guess. but it sounded good to me, what little i knew about it. why not be an eisenhower republican and he was my hero. >> giver have a quote that you wish you could've take back pretty. >> yes lots of them if you're the leader subject about with some guy in office were lady just to show the good little support, back, god for boats or something yet have some of those. and i voted against the attorney general from georgia. and i apologized to him for it because the secretary of transportation a black guy, bill: a great lawyer and a great guy, and a severe republican leader and you can't vote for this guy. i think i was one of 19. he endorsed me 96 in atlanta. so, regret

one of the questions we're going to ask is about the relationship between fdr and dwight eisenhower and specifically what was it about eisenhower's leadership that allowed fdr to select him for

you have people -- soldiers and statesmen, people like george marshall, dwight eisenhower, it is a very lots of military people, he had a caution about the use of military force. he understood it was not an abstraction, judy. it was all too real in terms of its consequences on people's lives. and he had a real appreciation of diplomacy. he saw these two tools, the military and diplomacy, not in juxtaposition, but rather to be used in tandem. he had people skills, was comfortable in conversation, was comfortable trying to persuade people. was comfortable rethinking his own positions. and the fact that he had a military uniform on for so much of his life actually lent him great credibility. if he was going to argue for compromise, it was hard to say about this combat veteran, this person who had risen to the chairmanship of the joint chiefs of staff, that somehow he was soft because he was anything but. >> woodruff: and michael gordon, you were talking to us about what came to be known as the powell doctrine. what was that? >> powell is a formidable figure that he was, his views were not

of his stature crossing over, he was sort of the big e military to political crossover since dwight eisenhower. how did that shape his role as the bush administration saw it in your government and the role he played behind the scenes in that white house? >> well, i was pleased to have met colin powell back in 1983 when i worked in the reagan white house, and he was working there. and worked with him in george h.w. bush's administration. secretary of transportation. he was chairman of joint chiefs. we had a remarkable experience, and i can tell you that when he became secretary of state, he already had a commanding presence on the world stage, having been the chairman of the joint chiefs. and that commanding presence made a big difference. in terms of the white house, he was always candid with his words. he was not trying to be part of any movement. instead, he was trying to make sure the president had wise counsel. so it was frequently that colin powell would offer contrarian advice in meetings, and he would do it in such a way that he wasn't argumentative, but he just caused you to open our e

every single president since gallup started keeping records which takes you all the way back to dwight eisenhowerphil mattingly is outfront at the white house. and it's what's in the bill and what's out and a heck of a lot has come out and how they are going to pay for what is still going to be in if they agree on what's in, all up in the air. so you could get a framework but it might be pretty meaningless. what is the white house thinking about whether they get anything done before the president goes on his trip? >> erin, other a than those things you listed, everything is going wonderfully. the reality is, one, they are very clear eyed about the stakes of this moment and i think that's been a driving force behind the president's decision to very clearly shift into an effort to close the deal. it's untdeniable over the cours of the last seven or eight days how the president and his team have changed how they have been operating behind closed doors. we talk to white house officials at this moment in time given the negotiations that are basically moving at a 24/7 pace, they are more at a head down

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harry truman and dwight eisenhower. and both of them had been in the renaissance and rehabilitation of the reputation after they left office but even then, the rankings and of that impressive if you've the seventh greatest president of all time, then you're not even in the top 20 percent. going on the list, we can see that nixon's average rating is 32 and 425 and others reagan 18 and bush and clinton is 17 and bush, 36, and as we took the average ranking of all of these presents, it is 19. and franklin roosevelt and the average ranking was 19 of the greatest and why is that set the result of their individual fault, ball to some extent sure, over the course, is very critical of jimmy carter and not out of any personal opposition to anything he tried to accomplish. the criticism of his understanding of executive authority and is use of the powers of leadership. carter's ranking as we saw we flipped back here, concord, 25 and 1919 and 27, 25 and 26. and we can identify those specific reasons that carter fell short of great

we can see here only two presidents have an average ranking in the top ten, harry truman and dwight eisenhower. as i said earlier both of them have enjoyed a renaissance of their reputation after they left office. but even then, the rankings are not that impressive. your the seventh greatest president of all time, then you are not even the top 20%, right? going down the list we can see it gets pretty bad. nixon is ranked 32, 425, carter 24.4, reagan 18, bush 20.5. clinton 15, bush 36. we took the average ranking of all of these presidents it is 19. these presidents franklin roosevelt average ranking of 19 greatest. now why is that? is that the result of their individual flaw? well, to some extent sure. i have been very, very critical of jimmy carter. not out of any personal opposition to anything he tried to accomplish, but out of a criticism of his understanding of executive authority and its use of the powers of leadership. carter's ranking, as we softly slip back for a minute, not good 25 covid 19, 2726. pretty consistently mediocre. we can identify very specific reasons carter fell short o

presidents over 39 years since dwight d. eisenhower.holy see and the united states only happened in 1984. so it's really the first sitting u.s. catholic president to meet with the pope since that has happened. and, of course, vatican city as a state, we know it's the smallest country in the world. only about 800 people are residents of it so you wouldn't say why is this all that significant? but there are 1.2 billion catholics around the world and the pope is leader of them as well. it does carry more weight than a head of state of some small country, i would say. >> you have two men both battling for control of their flocks, right? biden's political problems are obvious. there was tons of spin on the show just a segment ago about what's happening within the democrats. it's all okay. this is what family does. no, it isn't. it's a mess. >> right. >> similarly, pope francis is trying to find the line through where he can unite the most catholics. what will that manifest in between these two men? >> well, certainly back home in the united

his second time wasn't better than his first, and he lost again to dwight d. eisenhowerver cleveland in 1892, but he did win on a nonconsecutive term. the primary is complicated at 66%, and voters believe trumps have baseless claims about election fraud. nonetheless, presidential primaries are wild affairs and we should be careful about declaring anybody for inevitable. hillary clinton was a shoo-in, and she lost to barack obama. she also won against the largely unknown bernie sanders eight years later. >> where does that leave us? we believe in probabilities here at fivethirtyeight, and i don't think he is inevitable. >> nate silver, thanks very much. let's talk about this on our round table. sarah isgur, i'm pretty sure you're one of the 22% that doesn't want donald trump to run again, but do you think he will, and how do you explain the 78%? >> at this point, i think you have to think he is planning to run again. something would have to change for that to not be the case. i think that it is -- you look at the ohio senate race for instance. you have three candidates so

. >> dwight d eisenhower said let's figure out the stuff we agree on first and argue about the stuffon't and that's not where we are as a country. howie: bret baier, to rescue the republic, thanks for joining us. >> thanks, howie. howie: growing coverage and criticism for donald trump pushing republicans to back his claims of election fraud in the midterms, more with mollie hemingway right after this. voiceover: riders. wanderers on the road of life. the journey is why they ride. when the road is all you need, there is no destination. uh, i-i'm actually just going to get an iced coffee. well, she may have a destination this one time, but usually -- no, i-i usually have a destination. yeah, but most of the time, her destination is freedom. nope, just the coffee shop. announcer: no matter why you ride, progressive has you covered with protection starting at $79 a year. voiceover: 'cause she's a biker... please don't follow me in. hello, for the last few years, i've been a little obsessed with chasing the big ' idaho potato truck... but it's not like that's my only interest. i also love

politics, there is history time where people like harry truman to pick an example at random and dwight eisenhower or george or bush. they pass big things that you don't see the effect for a long time. it costs them in a short term and i am thinking about president bush to say on the economic side, getting a budget deal that leads to a revolution. that was a good long-term policy decision, the tragedy of politics is what's good in the long-term intersects which is political time. and so these lines are rolling and i would focus on the history one. john meacham, long winded but very -- >>> no. by the way, a reminder to our viewers meacham is going to next hour be doing a lecture, willie. >> you stick around for that, willie. >> he lives down here. >> i was going say as you know you and i get together every friday and we play bingo and we play. >> i only have one slot left in my card and it was the tax bill. >> you got meacham bingo. >> that's what you get for coming after me. >> john meacham. i will be thinking about that. >>. >> the geist's bust. >> he had a bust himself that he pulled out of his

take you back to the 1950s, dwight eisenhower, a five-star general in the office of the presidency, a please go get the polio vaccination there was no problem there you want to talk about mandates after the pearl harbor investigation, you gave up your liberty to go fight for the country to protect ourselves and so, the great irony about our personal freedom, it's actually checked. we need each other to be free. if we have a foreign invader we have to team up toke. if we have an invisible organism, the coronavirus, we have to protect each other but we don't have the trust and confidence in the establishment any more, andrew that's the unfortunate thing we have to figure out a way to -- that. >> it's political it appears to me. >> no, there is no pressure. >> for reasons that are explicable i'm wondering why it's not patriotic to take the vaccine. why that hasn't permeated if you will, a certain part of the political base on the right. >> well, listen, you know, president trump with operation warp speed, he helped to put the vaccine together he told his constituents that he, himself, to

describe frequently is the most popular american general since dwight eisenhower.ed as a possible candidate for president never elected to run. an american hero, a great american story. president elect george w. bush said in selecting him to lead the state department in 2000. it is a great day when the son of the south bronx succeeds to the office first held by thomas jefferson. to learn more about colin powell, to our website at c-span.org. there are over 400 appearances of general powell there in various roles that he served. if you want to see more about his life, philosophy, otherwise, go to c-span.org. if you type his name in the video library box, you can pull up all of our events with him. you can call us at (202) 748-8001 for republicans. (202) 748-8000 for democrats. independents, (202) 748-8002. andrew, massachusetts. caller: i sought the reporting that colin powell was fully vaccinated. that is a better point to look at and realize that maybe the vaccine is not helping, not doing anything, maybe people suffering from fibromyalgia should be speaking up an

>> he really was cut from it seems to me, from the mold of another great american general dwight d. eisenhowert had a question. what works? what doesn't work? he would do his best to move this country in the direction and move the military in the direction that he thought made the most sense. let's bring in former nato supreme ally commander retired four-star admiral, chief international security diplomacy analyst for nbc news and msnbc admiral. colin powell, it's interesting talking about what works and doesn't work. an awful lot is -- of attention is paid in the second gulf war to his testimony before the united nations where the general was given bad information. he took responsibility for that. it's something that haunted him for quite some time. i always thought it was fascinating that when george w. bush was asked if he ever sought the advice of colin powell as to whether he should go into iraq in 2003, president bush said no, i didn't. they asked why not. he said because i knew he was so strongly against it. this is a general that had no problem with first iraq war, and being a commande

honor which i hold here today hurricanes challenge coin and it was presented by president dwight d. eisenhower himself, the first one he did personally, who notably remarked, accurately, i would say, remarked that corporal dewey must have a, quote, body of steel. well, madam speaker, corporal dewey is the epitome of an american hero and we honor his legacy and never forget his selfless actions. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from missouri seek recognition? >> madam speaker, i ask unanimous consent to address the house for one minute and revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentleman is recognized for one minute. >> madam speaker, in 1886, a product was brought online, coca-cola, and it remained one of the most popular products of all time until 1985, 99 years later, when they came out with a great idea, new coke. the problem is, new coke was a terrible idea. and three months later they they brought back what they called classic coke because of the terrible, terrible idea had to be fixed. making our military be