bill quoted dwight mcdonald. a good quote. what was it? the principal point of contact with the real world. >> for his generation, represented the prison pal -- principal point of contact with the real world. light in the loafers? i knew him. he touched the ground with one sole. >> tread on the ground lightly. >> right. i think the "times" probably was that in those days. but in those days, the "times" was occupied a much, much larger space in the journalistic universe, in the civic universe, than it occupies today. and this is another point i'd make, that isn't necessarily direct rebuttal of bill but is a point that i think is very important to keep in mind, as we have any discussion about the media in the united states today. there's no more oracle in our media culture. that's long gone. it's disbursed the power and the influence is spread around. fred said, huffington post, $315 million according to america online? the daily beast bought "newsweek," not the other way around. a two-year-old web site bought "newsweek." we live in a very d