0k. .. and why the dwp thought he was able to carry on working? ok...ent, came to see me injune, 2017, in the offices, he came in on a zimmer and i was amazed to find out but not surprised that he had been found fit for work, he had prosthetic problems, he was wearing a colostomy bag, he could not breathe, and yet the dwp were saying he should be looking for work. he could not even look after himself. the problem at that juncture was, he was out of appeal, out of time for the appeal. i was able to get that back into tray, and the period from... october, 2017, and january, january 15, 2019, when i went with him to appeal, i sensed copious amount —— i sent copious evidence to the dwp, proving that he was not well. and one in particular, from his general practitioner, which said, that finding him fit for work had a detrimental substantial detrimental effect on his health. cani detrimental effect on his health. can i ask you, when you say, an apology from the dwp would not be enough, i don't have an apology from them but i have a statement, "thoughts are wi