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however, because of a dwp blunder, she now faces a bill for £4,000.innovation and technology cares for her career. she works part-time as a woke detector. however, when she blundered, calling a top scientist a hamas supporter, the bill”tens of thousands of pounds in costs and damages”was picked up by taxpayers like lisa. why? who deputy pm dowden: it is this government who have uprated benefits for carers, with almost £1,500 more. i think it is the case that the honorable lady™s constituents, my constituents and people up and down the country would expect the government to seek to recover overpaid sums. we need to do that in a compassionate way, and if people are struggling to make repayments, the dwp will engage to ensure that they have a sustainable and affordable way to make those repayments. >> may i associate myself with the tributes and condolences paid to the late great frank field? one of his lasting achievements in the world of education is the holiday activities and food fund, which this government can take great pride in having funded.

the dwp are not really in a real—life situation.as well. so the impact of having to cut hours will actually result in us claiming more benefits, so it is a bit of a vicious circle. carers uk wants the government to raise the earning limit to the equivalent of 21 hours of the national living wage per week and modernise the entire system. we should be doing more to help carers and give them peace of mind that they are able to do that without the worry of going over the earnings limit or making them take the really difficult decision between trying to still get their benefits or giving up work to care, which can be catastrophic in both the short and long term for theirfinances. there is also growing political pressure as a number of former dwp ministers are calling on the government to pause demands for repayment of sometimes thousands of pounds some carers may unwittingly have received in over payments. the dwp says it recognises the vital work carers do but it is right to recover taxpayers' money when claimants haven't told it about

so when the dwp dup every now and again controlling it. dwp dup in every now and again controlling it. so when the dwp dup in eveit now and again controlling it. so when the dwp dup in eveit goes,and again controlling it. so when the dwp dup in eveit goes,and doris] checks in on it goes, oh doris has overpaid. yeah has been overpaid. yeah >> the amount of money >> and the amount of money these, these saving these, these carers are saving us having people. us by not having these people. >> a great point. >> well that's a great point. >> well that's a great point. >> you rely on nhs if >> you rely on the nhs if they've if they've taken an extra 20 grand, my philosophy would be give it to them. >> particularly if their situation is a well, you're would be that. >> but you were claiming child benefit erroneously and i got kids. >> i was on 400 grand year at kids. >> time, on 400 grand year at kids. >> time, and-00 grand year at kids. >> time, and io grand year at kids. >> time, and i wasand year at kids. >> time, and i was taking'ear at kids.

the dwp should take responsibility for doing that.penny over you lose the £81.90. that can accumulate because often the dwp system does not pick it up and the onus is on the carer to tell dwp for example they may have got a pay rise, there may have done overtime, they do not realise they have gone over it and have worked it out over a month rather than a week. they lose that, it accumulates and they have to pay it back. they are being criminalised. the issue is one of many facing carers, with a debate at westminster this week hearing calls from those providing full—time support to receive payments in line with the living wage. the government must commit to improving carer's allowance. a government spokesperson said carer's allowance has been increased by almost £1500 since 2010. they said the government is committed to fairness in the welfare system, with safeguards in place for managing repayments while protecting the public purse. on monday, carer christie michael told breakfast how extra money would make a difference. 2010 was a lo

in a moment. that dwp statement. in a moment.de appears to have opened up in a way that is far bigger than i think any of us could imagine. this is about the number of children in the north of england going into care. but i worry that it shows us genuine societal breakdown . us genuine societal breakdown. >> on patrick christys tonight, nine till 11 pm, the infamous tiktok prankster mizzy is live in the studio after a sobering stretch behind bars, mizzy says he's a reformed character. can we believe him? plus, i've got exclusive footage of what illegal migrants on the bibby stockholm barge are really up to. and should the bank accounts of benefit claimers be monitored? is it ever okay to smack a child? reform? uk mp lee anderson gives his irrepressible takes. don't miss patrick christys tonight at >> have a think about these numbers. one in every 52 children in blackpool is in care. one in every 63 children in hartlepool is in care. one in every 278 is in care in hertfordshire , and one in every hertfordshire, and one in every 25

but next, the dwp plans to that. snoop on benefits claim as bank accounts to recover accounts in a bid to recover £600 million lost to fraud. is it justified or is it orwellian ? it justified or is it orwellian? and is it ever okay to smack a child reform mp lee anderson is chomping at the as next. welcome back to patrick christys tonight. look coming up. woke middle class left wingers claim the bibby stockholm is inhumane. but i've uncovered shocking new footage that shows what life is really like on that migrant barge. but first, lawyers have slammed government to slammed government plans to monitor bank accounts of monitor the bank accounts of benefits claimants. they say it's orwellian. the department for pensions wants new for work and pensions wants new powers banks to trawl powers to require banks to trawl the accounts of benefits recipients in to order catch welfare cheats, but the civil liberties group big brother watch has warned the plans risked breaking privacy and freedom of expression laws. we'll get th

the onus is on the character tell dwp.a pay rise, they may have done over time. they don't realise they have gone over it, they have worked it out over a month instead of over a week. they then lose all of that. that then accumulates and they have to pay it back. so they are being criminalised.— back. so they are being criminalised. , , , ., ., criminalised. the issue is one of many facing _ criminalised. the issue is one of many facing carers, _ criminalised. the issue is one of many facing carers, with - criminalised. the issue is one of many facing carers, with a - criminalised. the issue is one of. many facing carers, with a debate criminalised. the issue is one of - many facing carers, with a debate in westminster this week hearing calls for those providing full—time support to loved ones to receive payments in line with the living wage. payments in line with the living wa . e. ., , . ., ., wage. the government must commit to imrovin: wage. the government must commit to improving carer's _ wage. the government must co

the dwp says overpayments account for 2.1% of its £3.3 billion annual spend on carer�*s allowance.fundamental review and that will take time. in the short term, what we need are for those overpayments to just be written off by this government in order to stop penalising the very lowest paid unpaid carers who are looking after our most vulnerable in society. in a statement, the dwp said carers across the uk are unsung heroes who make a huge difference but have a responsibility to inform them of any changes in their circumstances that could impact their reward to ensure fairness in the welfare system. with growing political and public pressure on this issue, campaigners will be hoping it stays that way in the weeks and months to come. dan whitworth, bbc news. a hole in the ozone layer over antarctica — fuelled by smoke from bushfires in australia — is exposing wildlife to protentially damaging levels of uv light. scientists from the university of wollongong say animals and plants are having to put more energy into avoiding the rays. here's our science correspondent, victoria gill. th

in a statement, the dwp said...n this issue, campaigners will be hoping it stays that way in the weeks and months to come. dan whitworth, bbc news. elon musk�*s social media platform x has defended publishing posts showing a bishop in australia being stabbed during a sermon. the app, formerly known as twitter, rejected a regulator's order to take down the content due to it being violent and offensive. in a post on friday, x's "global government affairs" account said... it also said the content can be reasonably considered as part of public discussion or debate, under australian law. the order to take down the footage has sparked heated public exchanges between mr musk and australian officials. they claim that police have fears of the footage being used to encourage people to join terrorist groups. dan svantesson is a professor specialising in internet law — he explained how big a story this is in australia. this is dominating the news during the week, and more heated debates and more people exercising their free spe

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>> but i think also the problem is the dwp aren't quick enough to tell people., your payment penod things. your, your payment period was two days too long or you earned a little bit extra for a little bit of overtime or something like that, which you don't realise is taking you oven don't realise is taking you over. and the dwp taking years to tell you and that's that's not. >> and then you face a £5,000 fine at the end of it, which because you're taking all of your care, you're taking it all, taking all of it back. >> yeah, yeah, it just can't be. it can't be. right. it's a very small amount of money for the job that they do. and we should be really thankful that they're doing it. >> it's a tough job as well, isn't it, clarisse? another one of your. sorry, nigel, but you can get involved. get involved? >> thank you. >> thank you. >> it's a problem that i have. there's too much choice out there. you spend too long channel hopping. yes. on something to watch? yes. you do 100 gb news. of course. >> of course, 183 hours a year in channel hopping. >> but in just try

it's the dwp , isn't it? they want to the dwp, isn't it?ant to probe benefit claimants, bank accounts and that also includes people receiving pension credit under the guise of what? looking for fraud? yes exactly. >> so the government, the government has smuggled to in basically unrelated bill, these sweeping powers to search all of our bank accounts in order to find people that might be receiving any kind of welfare payments in search of not only welfare fraud, but error as well, including the state's own errors. so there's no serious crime threshold. there's not even a crime threshold, but all of our bank accounts under these plans will be continuously and repeatedly scanned. it's absolutely mind blowing. unprecedented and it's the kind of thing that i think if the government were honest about what they were trying to achieve here, the public would be outraged about, why don't we know more about this? it's a very good question . the powers very good question. the powers have been. you would expect that normally there would be a standalone

we are preparing a new fraud bill for the next parliament which will align dwp with hmrc so that we treat benefit fraud like tax fraud with new powers to make seizures and arrests and will also enable penalties to be applied to a wider set of fraudsters through a new civil penalty. because when people see people in their community gaming the system their taxes pay, it erodes support for the very principle of the welfare state. now, in conclusion, some people no doubt will hear this speech and accuse me of lacking compassion, of not understanding the bar yz people face in their every day lives. but the exact opposite is true. there is nothing compassionate about leaving a generation of young people to sit alone in the dark before a flickering screen watching as their dreams slip further from reach every passing day. and there's nothing fair about asking taxpayers to support those who could work but choose not to. it doesn't have to be like this. we can change. we must change. the opportunities to work are there thank tuesday an economic plan that's created almost a million job vacancies. t

i like the bloke, but when he's saying he's proud dwp for getting to proud of the dwp for getting to bottom of this, it's the dwp that's this happen in the that's let this happen in the first should hang first place. they should hang their shame. their heads in shame. >> billion of taxpayers >> £11 billion of taxpayers money last two i money in the last two years. i mean, is absolutely mean, it is absolutely astonishing. now astonishing. well, moving on now to else get to something else that'll get people going because it's shoplifting offences. they've recently record high more recently hit a record high more than a thousand shoplifting offences single day . but offences every single day. but despite this, the detection rate has dropped to record low in has dropped to a record low in response, government has response, the government has today a £55 million today announced a £55 million crackdown on the scourge of shoplifting plaguing shoplifting that is plaguing britain's high streets. >> announce of >> announce a strong set of measures to clamp down on retail crime. that's about a

in a statement, the dwp said...f having 12 number one albums in the uk — the most by a female artist. the tortured poets department had the american singer's best—ever first week sales in the uk — and the highest first week sales for any artist since 2017. her next target in the history books is elvis presley, who has 13 number one albums. the beatles have the most, with 16. stay with us here on bbc news. hello. it's a weekend of mixed fortunes weather—wise because things are still very unsettled. rain around at times and it is going to feel chilly for the time of year. if you're after some warmer weather, you're after some warmer weather, you might well see it into next week but the weather still remaining pretty unsettled. low pressure never far away. we have it to the south at the moment, that have low pressure approaching us from the south. an area of cloud and patchy rain through central parts of england and wales for the rest of the day. the rain tending to peter out as it pushes northwards. some sunny spells

>> mr speaker, unpaid carers have shared heartbreaking stories of how they have been hounded by the dwpy hounded by the dwp and told to pay huge fines for minor infringements on carer's allowance earning rules, all because the government failed to do anything about a problem they have known about for years . have known about for years. yesterday, mr speaker, one of the prime minister's own dementia advisers resigned, saying that this government's treatment of those unpaid carers was beyond the pale. so will the deputy prime minister apologise to all those unpaid carers who have been failed by his government and commit to a full review of the system here? >> prime minister >> prime minister >> well, first of all, i pay tribute to all those unpaid carers. indeed i met some with them over the weekend. i know how hard they work and they keep our society functioning through their their their commitment to us. and that's why we've actually uprated the benefits by £81.90 a week and increase the carer's allowance by almost £1,500 since 2010. now, in respect of allegations of overpayment , of co

it can accumulate because often the dwp system does not pick it up and _ often the dwp system does notition you are in the lowest possible income. it is are in the lowest possible income. it is deeply— are in the lowest possible income. it is deeply unfair. you are penalised for caring. | it is deeply unfair. you are penalised for caring. i imagine this is another thing _ penalised for caring. i imagine this is another thing to _ penalised for caring. i imagine this is another thing to worry _ penalised for caring. i imagine this is another thing to worry about? it| is another thing to worry about? it is. it feels like it is one thing after another. is. it feels like it is one thing afteranother. instead is. it feels like it is one thing after another. instead of giving us an increase so we are not struggling, you feel like they will take things away. it is unbelievable. it feels demeaning. it feels insulting and you feel like you are not seen. the feels insulting and you feel like you are not seen. feels insulting and you feel like ou are not seen. , ., you are not seen. the departmen

just it's a joke , the dwp tried to it's a joke, the dwp tried to switch people from the six legacy benefits data. they're not sure what's going on. they don't know why people aren't switching and they're cutting off their benefits. why would they do that? i mean, they sent me a £67 over and over again for my energy or whatever it was. why can't they just send them their money? we're just doing things in a very disorganised fashion. we have apparently 150,000 people in the in the british military and the forces , and we military and the forces, and we have a ministry of defence with over 60,000 employees. >> i mean, no, it's absolutely staggering . but but just one staggering. but but just one thought and i'm briefly, if you would there are elements of the french economy which are more mixed than ours. we've referred to the health service, which you say is delivering better in france, but actually it's a more mixed model than ours, which kind of goes slightly against the narrative. >> yes, but it was designed and planned and tested and put in action without political parties tearing it apart

there the dwp have those powers. there is that strategy and really we want to see results .y this , they're going to be caught this, they're going to be caught and they're going to prison for and they're going to prison for a long time . a long time. >> well let's hope they throw away the key. hamish brown, m.b.e, retired scotland yard detective of course. m.b.e, retired scotland yard detect you of course. m.b.e, retired scotland yard detect you muchf course. m.b.e, retired scotland yard detect you much for urse. m.b.e, retired scotland yard detect you much for your thank you very much for your thoughts on that shocking story. >> few fun >> yeah, they had a few fun years our dime, on our years on our dime, on our pennies, pounds farthings, pennies, our pounds farthings, our millions. and, you know, the laws caught up with them. so good on the police for finding them, investigating this and getting them in jail. i mean, there is a question over whether we should have extradited the two ran off to bulgaria two who ran off to bulgaria and take to face justice take them back to

there is no need for extra law that if the police want and the dwp go to the police with a suspicious the banks suspicious activity, the banks are obliged to enforce what's called an sa suspicious activity report and they can freeze and hold your money. there's no need for new law. it's already draconian just on the basis of suspicion. a friend of mine running a charity was getting a big donation from america that caused a red flag . it was caused a red flag. it was upheld. their bank was account was frozen under a sa. and you don't even have the right to know why it's happening. that's how draconian and scary this stuff is. >> but kerry, this is even worse, right? >> at least there there was the suspicion. >> this is without suspicion. >> this is without suspicion. >> not only does this and this isn't just and so it's got nothing to do with cracking down on benefit fraud, because they can already do that and sequester your account and your all your details. they don't have a problem with doing that. this is a snooper's charter. and it means the politics gets into banking and banking

we are saying that if you have had intensive support from dwp for a period of 18 months, and you areits. but the health foundation argues addressing more structural factors is essential. we need to be looking at how we address poverty and how that is affecting people's lives. they need to be looking at how they regulate some aspects of the food and drink industry that drives obesity. and they need to be looking at things like poor quality housing. so these are sort of really foundational things to ensure people can stay healthy. and if we are not getting those right, then, you know, these are the problems that flow from that. i need more mental health support. so, what sort of mental health support are you getting at the moment? i have appointments with a mental health nurse, but i have only had one so far. i've not had any other support for a long time. so that's one in the last year or over what period? it will be the past couple of years. in an ideal world, i would be able to see somebody potentially once a week. and how likely is it, do you think, you might be in employment in th

and there was a woman talking about it, you know, she she'd been sending in her payslips to dwp for years years and years. and now they've said, oh, you owe us £20,000. so, you know, those are people who are probably working part time juggling a little bit here and there according to the care needs of disabled or very sick relatives and things. and they're being persecuted . and they're being persecuted. and that seems to me that we, you know, we don't seem to have any consistency in either sympathy or economy. >> let me ask you this though, right? because many people will be agreeing with them, perhaps some of the sentiment you're expressing, but then there'll be people at home that are also saying, well, hold on, it's all well and good. the tories trying to clamp down on people that are poorly, they can't work whatever. but the fact of the matter is, many people perhaps might be more ill than they would have ordinarily been because they can't access treatment on the nhs. >> yeah, there's certainly an issue there about the fact that we turned our national health system into a national co

so one of the really great things that you just mentioned is that la la, dwp, department of water and power as well as san francisco, through this pilot project, brought in this kubota pipe to try it out. since then, many more water agencies have also tried the kubota pipe and two three of the primary ductile iron pipe manufacturers here in the united states have now developed a seismic joint. so that is bringing the cost down. it's still expensive because it's a high quality, joint, but we think that the price will continue to come down on this and be more accessible. and with the expense of it warrant, because it would be very expensive if it weren't there, if we didn't have water in an earthquake going to san francisco, how much would that cost? oh, absolutely. general. yeah absolutely. an incredible amount of loss, especially for fires after earthquakes. yeah yes, yes. that's true. good. thank you. that was informative. commissioner rivera. yeah. that was that was a great question. and i just wanted to mention thank you very much for the explanation of the kubota pipe, in my previ

of used to sit in the department of education, it's about education, but then it's about whether the dwp and, and because a lot policies will come lot of the policies will come through there. >> to get this >> so you start to get this minister that's sort of cross cuts, i think let's focus cuts, which i think let's focus on let's get the on the policies. let's get the right place. right policies in place. >> waiting for but >> sam's waiting for us. but which government was under? which government was that under? who introduced the childcare minister? do you remember children's minister tim lawton, not care. not child care. >> minister was >> children's minister was children's when he was children's minister when he was the education. the department of education. >> is pm? >> and who is pm? >> and who is pm? >> pm would be david cameron then. >> e- e“ e nigel. that's >> okay. thank you nigel. that's why paid the big bucks why you get paid the big bucks to political. no, no at to be our political. no, no at all. let's go to sam. sam all. right, let's go to sam. sam francis headlines. he's

they have been hit by huge penalties and claw—backs by the dwp, sometimes years later.t from the pandemic? when people were paid huge amounts of money and some of the loan is the government paid, people cheated on that and the government have given up that and the government have given up on chasing that. the that and the government have given up on chasing that.— that and the government have given up on chasing that. the word crawled -- the word — up on chasing that. the word crawled -- the word cruel— up on chasing that. the word crawled -- the word cruel implies _ —— the word cruel implies deliberate. -- the word cruel implies deliberate.— -- the word cruel implies deliberate. , ~' ., , . -- the word cruel implies deliberate. , ,, ., , . ., deliberate. they know they are doing an important — deliberate. they know they are doing an important job _ deliberate. they know they are doing an important job looking _ deliberate. they know they are doing an important job looking after- deliberate. they know they are doing an important job looking after lovedl an importantjob

and dwp said, no, we don't want that.> that's ridiculous. >> that's ridiculous. >> so this poor woman is, you know, understandably distraught . know, understandably distraught. and she's not the only one. >> so that is hard. >> so that is hard. >> it is heartless , like most of >> it is heartless, like most of these carers don't have enough financial anyway . they financial support anyway. they then the trust, you know, the people are supposed be people that are supposed to be you them you know, help support them financially and absolutely take them further. >> and they've been told that they'll have a criminal record unless back. they unless they pay it back. they get she's had get taken to court. so she's had this has had to, this poor woman has had to, agree it at £60 agree to repay it at £60 a month, which means it should be 73 by the time it's repaid in 2035. and she says, i'm going to have to keep working. >> i'd let them. i'd go to court. i'd let them, because i can't jury . can't imagine any jury. >> actually, i w

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mister speaker, unpaid carers have shared heartbreaking stories of how they have been hounded by the dwp of those unpaid carers was beyond the pale. will the deputy prime minister apologise to all those unpaid carers who have been failed by his government and commit to a full review of the system? first government and commit to a full review of the system?— government and commit to a full review of the system? first of all, i -a review of the system? first of all, i pay tribute _ review of the system? first of all, i pay tribute to — review of the system? first of all, i pay tribute to all— review of the system? first of all, i pay tribute to all of _ review of the system? first of all, i pay tribute to all of those - review of the system? first of all, i pay tribute to all of those unpaid carers, i met some of their over the weekend. i know how hard they work and they keep our society functioning through their commitment and that is why we have operated the benefits by £81.90 a week and increased carers permit elements by almost £1500 since 2010. in respect of allegations of overpayment

but there is also another counterbalancing factor, which is that dwp tends to overpay benefits and thenck somehow when they realise that this is the case. so there is a sort of balancing factor there. but yes , balancing factor there. but yes, people don't claim they're not aware that they have to , or aware that they have to, or they, they find it difficult to even get through the process of, of doing so. and as things change, as you move from one benefit to another, it just complicates things. even further. and it is very important that they do claim, because if you look at how much people are getting on universal credit, say, and on general benefits, what you find is that universal credit itself is only about 13. according to the joseph rowntree foundation , and joseph rowntree foundation, and trussell trust, of average earnings . so trussell trust, of average earnings. so it's very trussell trust, of average earnings . so it's very little. earnings. so it's very little. and for a number of people, even what they get per week doesn't cover their essential items . cover their essentia

and also there's an interesting story, about the dwp.laimant , you you're a benefit claimant, you know, just in case there's fraud going on or, you know, it could be something as simple, martin, as they could put an overpayment into your bank account and then say, we need to get into your bank account . bank account. >> it's not you, you know, it's us. >> us. >> and then they're in there . >> and then they're in there. breach of privacy or what? >> yeah. the last thing you want is , is that lot sniffing around is, is that lot sniffing around in your bank accounts? michelle dewberry dewbs& co 6 or 7. a tasty menu, as ever, about to be served. now there's a new way to get in touch with us. and here's bev turner with all the details. >> we are proud to be gb news the people's channel. and as you know, we always love to hear your views. now there's a new way of getting in touch with us at gbnews.com/yoursay by commenting , at gbnews.com/yoursay by commenting, you can be part of a live conversation and join our gb news community. you can even

. >> that requires a dwp that is properly funded and is given the resources and the support and the needsl we are doing is finding scapegoats, i.e. the people who have suffered under this to blame. and that's all that's happened. if it's not, well , happened. if it's not, well, perhaps just some of those claimants, the next well, perhaps those government perhaps some of those government departments focus on departments could focus less on diversity net diversity and inclusion and net zero all nonsense zero and all the nonsense they're money on they're spending money on spending , perhaps. they're spending money on speandg , perhaps. they're spending money on speandg , perhaif;. they're spending money on speandg , perhaif they could >> and perhaps if they could maybe work go to the maybe go to work and go to the office, maybe they'd get office, then maybe they'd get more renee, thank more done. listen renee, thank you very much. doctor renee hoenderkamp really good to talk to also lisa mckenzie and to you. also lisa mckenzie and james matthewson briefly james matthewson very briefly then.